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    Default What to do next when she's gagging for it at a local pub!

    Hi! Kicking myself because I didn't know what next to do after I'd approached this cute 20 yr old in pub amongst her friends with a direct 'Excuse me but I had to come over and say how attractive you are' opener, then went back to my mates.
    Then her friends started pointing and giggling at me and one shouted 'hey she's gagging for it!' and there she was smiling at me - and its the first time ive had such a strong female response and just didn't know what to do next! The 'animal looking at car headlights' kicked in and I froze! (pussy!)
    Assuming this girl is primed and ready to go- and the fact that I dont have much experience in girls reacting like this! Do I take her somewhere private asap and do the deed or do I say something else to get her home to mine? Or what? What can I be like in order not to kill the sexual Tension and to keep it going till i get her somewhere where I can F-close?

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    Default Re: What to do next when she's gagging for it at a local pub!

    This is a common mistake among Direct Game newbs. It's like suave Kino said in one of his topics: 'most guys forget to go on after the opener because they think they can deliver it and the girl is supposed to magically fall for them. They don't. All you've done is started a conversation' (probably not his actual words but it's what he meant).

    All she did was give a positive response to your opener. You said one line. There was no rapport or sexual tension or whatever. You could have probably isolated her there and then worked on from the opener because her friends seem to have approved of you.

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    Default Re: What to do next when she's gagging for it at a local pub!

    But that sounds just the same as Indirect Game! The whole point of Direct Game (i thought) is getting to the point and showing my intentions immediately instead of asking her loads of questions and trying to remember loads of different routines just to get to know her and into a bonking situation!
    If this is this the case then it is just direct openers that work and mid game is the same!
    All I'm getting at is that like most guys my mind goes blank in the real world except for lots of questions and connecting statements about them. It sounds like i just need to persevere until I can relax in front of sexy women and lead by memorising more entertaining and exciting rapport.
    This is all very well stating what I should be doing but I can only operate with what pops in my head during the conversation- considering I dont have an endless sea of women to practise on like un London- is there a good way to rehearse at home and memorise what I'm going to say before I interact? (like playing a gig- you practise at home till you're blue in the face so that when I'm in front of an audience the words/ tune just comes into memory no sweat.)
    So back to rapport practise lol.
    This stuff really works!

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    Default Re: What to do next when she's gagging for it at a local pub!

    Quote Originally Posted by greg'engineroom' View Post
    But that sounds just the same as indirect game! The whole point of Direct Game (i thought) is getting to the point and showing my intentions immediately instead of asking her loads of questions and trying to remember loads of different routines just to get to know her and into a bonking situation!
    If this is this the case then it is just direct openers that work and mid game is the same!
    All I'm getting at is that like most guys my mind goes blank in the real world except for lots of questions and connecting statements about them. It sounds like i just need to persevere until I can relax in front of sexy women and lead by memorising more entertaining and exciting rapport.
    This is all very well stating what I should be doing but I can only operate with what pops in my head during the conversation- considering I dont have an endless sea of women to practise on like un London- is there a good way to rehearse at home and memorise what I'm going to say before I interact? (like playing a gig- you practise at home till you're blue in the face so that when I'm in front of an audience the words/ tune just comes into memory no sweat.)
    So back to rapport practise lol.
    Fluff talk and connecting statements can be quite alright as long as you are continually escalating kino. If you have a problem with your mind going blank during the pickup the best thing to do is look around the venue and find something really interesting to point out.

    Point out other girls and what they are wearing and ask the girls opinion on the fashion sense, or bust on that other girl, or try a very simple game like "Bin, Marry, Shag"

    Use other people to dhv yourself, everyone likes to people watch, so point out stuff like if you see some guy getting his game on, point him out to the girls and ask them to critique the guys game from a distance then DHV yourself. If you see an argument between two girls, or a girl and a guy breaking out in the venue, point it out and laugh at them.

    In a crowded venue there is always a lot to see. So keep an eye out during your set for interesting situational hooks. If nothing else you can always stack openers.

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    Default Re: What to do next when she's gagging for it at a local pub!

    It's not the same as Indirect Game, because
    -With Direct Game, you both know why you are interacting without any misunderstandings regarding that
    -With direct game, it is much easier to avoid the friend zone
    -With direct game, you save yourself a lot of trouble if she's not interested. She will let you know right away.
    -With direct game, you can be more direct later on as well. Instead of asking her to join you and your friends to do X and try to make her yours from there on in, you can just tell her you're looking for a relationship/friends with benefits/whatever at your first encounter. Thus saving a lot of time and money.
    -When opening direct, you immediately show more social value, confidence and balls than when you're opening indirect.

    Women aren't going to sleep with you just because you made an impressive entry. She's still going to have to have a connection with you, be comfortable around you and get to know you a little. Also, just opening direct might not generate enough attraction, especially when night gaming, because they get harassed by drunk guys all the time - drunk guys who open direct.

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    Default Re: What to do next when she's gagging for it at a local pub!

    Aha! A major inner discovery today! I just realised when piecing this puzzle together that why it was that I wasnt getting the same results as I was getting on the two day bootcamp I did last year in London.
    My mind didn't go blank and I was talking for ages to allsorts of girls both days.
    I dont know if you know but Gamblers method of game we got taught is very conversational - I mean how can you get laid if you cant chat and have a laugh and get to know them?
    So when I tried this stuff at clubs and pubs at home something just didnt click and convos only lasted a very short time even though I started out really well(hence my trying Direct Game after having succes with it 20 yrs ago when i was last out trying to get laid regularly#) .
    Surprise! That is the culprit for me! I was always caught offguard by attractive girls! On the bootcamp they knew exactly where we were going, what tactics to use in that environment, the fact that we were going to meet girls that we liked without a shadow of a doubt!(Leicester square), and gave us the info and practise before we went anywhere.
    So now i realise when I go out on my own and meet up with mates up the pub I havent done any preperation hence the only thing I can think of is my direct opener (which works very well btw), and the mind is a sea of black! So ive dug out my london notes and now going out after rehearsing them live and getting in the same state as i was and see where it goes.
    This stuff really works!


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