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    Default Do you ever feel like a creepy person?

    Hey, I guess you've fielded this one before, so perhaps there's an acronym for my type here and an automatic filter that sends this to the trash bin.

    But do you ever feel creepy thinking of these elaborate strategies to manipulate women, with the acronyms and everything? If I ever knew anyone was thinking of me as an HB222 and their mind narration got somehow broadcast out loud, I think I would just be so creeped out. I guess I wondered if for you guys who use these acronyms and seduction strategies, if there was ever a point where you came here and it was still new and creepy to YOU and then you got so immersed in reading it and wanting to feel like a successful man romantically that you just kind of lost sight?

    Some of you seem to have such low self esteem in how you talk about yourselves before you became a "pick up artist." For what it's worth, lots of women really like nerdy guys who genuinely respect women. Anyway, I hope some of you decide to stop objectifying women. Maybe you could even find a casual sex arrangement without making such deliberate overtures to control people, if that's what you want. I just wanted to say that, because I know someone or another will read it, even if it gets deleted soon.

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    Default Re: Do you ever feel like a creepy person?

    PUA isn't only about meeting women. It helps people become better socially.


    It isn't manipulating women. It's understanding the psyche of women in this day and age, and learning what is attractive, and what is not; how to initiate a conversation, and keep it going, etc.


    What someone wants to do with their life is their own decision.


    Everyone is entitled to their own decision. I am not forcing any "nerdy" guys to get up, learn how social structures work, and have them work out all the time. However, those that do want to learn, come to a forum such as this.


    Brother, you're out to lunch if you don't think women classify men on a scale of 1 to 10 when walking by. Women do it as often as men; but considering most men are not as social compared to females, and think logically... We organize it into a structure to better understand.


    The only "Seduction Strategy" here, is teaching how social/attraction structures work between males, and females.


    There are many people who've grown up with an extroverted/pro-ambiverted mind, without social skills. This can lead to mental health issues down the road (mainly depression). You may find these people here.


    Not every one man is the same. We all have different minds, and must deal with them in the appropriate way we feel is right for ourselves.


    I hope what I have said will clear up what PUA is all about.


    (If women knew the names, of course they would think it's weird. This is because they don't understand how our minds work. It's natural, and I don't blame them. However, not all women find it creepy/weird)

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    Default Re: Do you ever feel like a creepy person?

    Girls are a different animal than dudes and a lot of intelligent dudes have trouble understanding how a woman's mind operates. As OOKE said, we organize the whole thing into a simple, logical structure just so we can get a handle on it. Methinks the true PUAs don't need all of this stuff though. True PUAs and guys with natural game just "get it" on a fundamental level.

    "For what it's worth, lots of women really like nerdy guys who genuinely respect women."

    This is worth nothing, because there's lots of nerdy guys who genuinely respect women that are never, ever going to get laid. This is why guys are so confused - women say one thing but mean another. We need some kind of a logical framework just to get a handle on the whole crazy mess.

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    Default Re: Do you ever feel like a creepy person?

    That's a whole lot of judgement that you have no right to give.

    "Lots of women really like nerdy guys who genuinely respect women."

    Generalizing for the sake of this arguement, no, they don't. Meet the nice guy/asshole complex. These "nerdy guys" are pretentious and feel that because they are nice and "genuinely respect" women they are entitled to be treated a certain way by them. She owes you nothing. Girls don't like nice guys because they claim to be better then they are. Girls like assholes because they are better than they claim. Also, assholes don't feel a sense of entitlement just because they treat a woman any certain way.

    Objectifying women and control?

    Do your homework. Yes, there are men who objectify women. Yes some of them are here, but not most. Most of the men here love women and have the higest respect for them. Few of us are about fucking bitches and getting hoes. Most of us ultimately want to meet a woman we can spend the rest of our life with. Did you read the IMPORTANT disclaimer before you posted? Disrespect to women will not be tolerated.

    Just as women can't be generalized, neither can PUAs. There are different styles and methods, and the language we use helps us to understand each other better.

    If you're going to rip on us, KNOW us. Don't just hop on here from your computer and piss your opinion. We aren't just text; we are people. If you and I sat down and talked, you would find out that we aren't near as different as you think.
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    Default Re: Do you ever feel like a creepy person?

    Why would anyone delete your honest opinion? Hell I welcome the dissenting opinion simply because most of us can crush it like a soda can.

    The fact is, that women have a very complex, but very predictable mental process and we master that process in order for the average man who isn't a 10 in looks, has a 6 figure salary, etc to have an actual shot at getting himself the most attractive women he possibly can.

    Our lingo and acronyms are designed to allow to us to pass on our accumulated experience to each other in a standardized fashion so that everyone can understand what we are discussing in a way that doesn't require an entire novel to explain.

    I for instance could write something like "I approached her and she immediately began running her fingers through her hair, smiling coyishly and touching my arm in a friendly manner."

    It's easier to short hand it and say "I approached her and she immediately sent me ioi's and initiated Kino."

    One sentence replaced what could be an entire paragraph and any experienced man on this board would know exactly what I was talking about.

    Why don't we have a right to discuss among each other the techniques that we know work that allow us to come across as charming and impressive men in our own right?

    You judge wrongly. You would never know us from any other highly attractive man. Now maybe you would prefer to see a bunch of lame geeks crying about how the prettiest women only get with the guys with money and looks. Instead you probably feel threatened at the idea of men being proactive and taking control of their dating lives.

    I suspect you are a woman. Either way, feel to free to pull up a chair and ask some questions. We have nothing to hide or feel ashamed or creepy about. Since when was talking about the best way to meet the best women lame or creepy?


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