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    Default Direct Opening/DHV With Powerful Frame

    Tonight while I was sitting at work I was doing some mind exercising over the idea of setting a powerful frame right off the opener. I prefer direct game whenever possible, and direct game relies heavily on proper framing of the conversation to your advantage right off the bat.

    I've discussed in this thread: The Art of Complimenting a Woman in the 3rd Person

    About how to circumvent Neg Theory using an imaginary 3rd person woman, complimenting that 3rd person woman, and then implying either directly or indirectly that the target matches the attributes of that 3rd person woman.

    So I thought about this and came to a conclusion, can the reverse be true as well? Can we dhv ourselves through the use of an imaginary 3rd person man and then compare ourselves favorably to that man?

    I can't see why not, at least in theory, while I intend to go out and try this out as soon as possible, I wanted to at least share the theory behind it with the community and get some feedback because well, everything in game has been tried at least once by someone.

    Let me give a quick example from that thread above.

    PUA:"Hey there."

    Girl:"Hi"

    PUA:"I came over here because I thought there was a chance that I might meet a very attractive woman, you wouldn't happen to know where one might be would you?"
    Okay, powerful stuff right there. That's a solid direct opener that gets results.

    Now what if we reversed it a bit?

    PUA:"Hey there! How's it going tonight?"

    Girl:"Fine"

    PUA:"Gotta quick question"

    Girl:"Okay?"

    PUA: (direct and hard eye contact) "Imagine that one of the best looking, best dressed, most talented and successful guys you'll meet tonight is standing directly in front of you right now and he happens to find you very attractive. What do you do?"
    In theory, this should be an almost unbreakable frame that if spoken correctly, could make her cream her jeans right there in front of you.

    If your body language is spot on, as it should be, I can't see how a woman could raise much of a Bitch Shield to this approach. If your inner game is solid, and I mean solid as a rock, as it should be, and you truly believe you really are that guy.. I simply cannot see how any woman except a true bitch would blow you out on this opener because it just screams confidence and even if you really aren't the best looking, best dressed, etc dude she'll meet that night.. for that one moment if you believe it.. I think she'll believe it as well.. at least for a few minutes.

    I'm definitely going to be trying this out this week when I can finally peel myself away from work. If this conceptual theory works out.. I can see alot of possibilities in this kind of framing. This is definitely an advanced idea that requires a hefty bit of experience because your body language, voice intonation, facial expressions all have to come into play to convince this woman you really believe the crap you just said to her about yourself. This isn't for guys with a lot of aa that's for sure. But I think this sort of approach has merit for those of us who have truly achieved alpha male status.

    Comments/Critiques Welcome

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    Default Re: Direct Opening/DHV With Powerful Frame

    It seems powerful enough. Looking forward to the test results and any follow-ups you might use.

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    Default Re: Direct Opening/DHV With Powerful Frame

    I like this, very confident and like Virgil said above I think a field report for this would be awesome.

    But I have one question and one question only about this, you said if your body language is spot on than it will work wonders but what kind of attitude would you go in with? A slightly serious one (like Christian Bale as Bruce Wayne in Batman) or a cocky-funny one (like Adam Sandler)?


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