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    Default Re: Death to the Neg

    Im still an AFC so bear with me but i got a few questions on this:
    1st - what is pre-selection and how do you establish social proof in a bar scene or party?
    2nd - whats the difference between teasing and negging? because to me they seem like one and the same right now and it seems like you guys are really polarized about them...
    3rd - in my city the chicks are known for having a very powerful Bitch Shield so like an hb5 would think shes an HB8 at the least (Not an excuse - trust me on this one. when i get out of my city the girls seem like friendly angels) so the way I saw negging up until now was basically just bringing the girl down to her own level or her real level in reality... how can I deal with that instead?

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    Default Re: Death to the Neg

    Quote Originally Posted by Quren View Post
    Im still an AFC so bear with me but i got a few questions on this:
    1st - what is pre-selection and how do you establish social proof in a bar scene or party?
    2nd - whats the difference between teasing and negging? because to me they seem like one and the same right now and it seems like you guys are really polarized about them...
    3rd - in my city the chicks are known for having a very powerful Bitch Shield so like an hb5 would think shes an HB8 at the least (Not an excuse - trust me on this one. when i get out of my city the girls seem like friendly angels) so the way I saw negging up until now was basically just bringing the girl down to her own level or her real level in reality... how can I deal with that instead?
    1st - Pre-selection is the signal for women that other women already like you. If other women like you, then you must be worth giving a shot. Social proof is like pre-selection but it also involves the guys. If you have a lot of friends with you, it shows you're socially skilled. You establish social proof by making it obvious you know a lot of people in the place and they like you. For example, have someone take pictures of you and your friends (with flash on to make heads turn to see what's happening and spot your social proof).

    2nd: Teasing is playful, EG 'You're such a dork '. Negging is slightly stronger and is meant to bring down a woman's confidence. It's an old technique however, because it assumes the woman has higher value than you, which must NEVER EVER be true in your head. Instead, you should raise the value of those around you.

    After typing that, I read the OP and I saw Cody already covered my 2nd response. He used the example of saying 'I like your nails. Are they real?' neg.

    3rd: Cody also covered that. Just say what's on your mind. Don't intentionally neg unless you want to respond that way. For example, if a girl sais something mean for no reason, just say 'you're not very nice, are you?', or whatever pops into your mind, and walk off.

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    Default Re: Death to the Neg

    Hey Cody,

    First of all, BRILLIANT post although that being said that most guys on here have had their eyes opened to this wonderful way of socialising, seducing and generally bettering themselves on every level.

    This means that whatever they have learnt over their life has to be thrown out the window and people need a bit of structure and a step-by-step guide through dealing with these encounters.

    It is obvious to me that you have worked hard and got to a level where you can easily integrate yourself into most social groups. We are all working to be at a level where all of this information comes naturally and then we can individually tweak our game to a point where we are truly happy with the person we have become.
    Keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars

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    Default Re: Death to the Neg

    WOW. Cody I'm twice your age and this stuff is golden. After reading some diferent techniques in here negging will definitely not work for me... Because I'm an alpha! You sir just showed me what I've been doing wrong. On the other hand direct sounds like what i've been doing right... Reading that next sir.

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    Default Re: Death to the Neg

    TLR.

    negs only to be used to disqualify yourself(Not hit on the target) from hitting on the girl. This is more for mixed big group sets (3 or more people in it) So that the group thinks you aren't hitting on her(maybe she has a bf/husband/all the guys in the group want her). What you don't do is use negs as a form of teasing, because it sounds mean and if you combine negs with teasing you'll seem mean because your trying to hit on her while saying something unpleasant. I've fucked up from this so much and didn't know how to use them. You use negs to disqualify yourself if your entering the group indirectly so you don't come across as a threat. Thats the point of them.

    I mean, sure, go ahead and be direct right away on a mixed set but you might find yourself in a fist fight or verbal shouting match if one of the guy's happens to be her date/brother/friend/husband/boyfriend and doesn't like you for that.

    If a guy went direct on my girlfriend/date when I am with her I'll be fucking pissed and tell you to fuck off.

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    Default Re: Death to the Neg

    Instead of throwing rocks at the pedestal on top of which you placed the p*ssy, internalize the axiom that we all walk on level ground.

    One of the best sentences I've read on this site. A-men, bro.
    "To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all." - Oscar Wilde


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