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    zenariuz is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Exclamation Need help approaching, opening and maintaining a conversation

    I need to know what to do as to how I can at least Number Close. I go a lot to the movies with my pals and I see groups of three or four girls I would like yo approach but when I do I say something like hey do I know you and then they say no and I'm like oh OK and things just stop or I say hello you know I have a question and they get creeped out and say something like ohhh I have to go my mum is waiting outside... these girls are eighteen seventeen and where I live driving is not normal until twenty-ish.

    Can someone give me like a step to step thingy of what I should say etc.so I can at least get my first gf cause I'm eighteen and its kinda embarrassing to have never made out or kissed or had a gf.

    Tyvm in advance

    Juan

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    Default Re: Need help approaching women opening and actuallymaintainin a conversat

    Sounds like you have a long journey in understanding what is happening with your game. I would start with Mystery Method and possibly learning about Opinion Openers. Hope this helps. Good luck

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    Default Re: Need help approaching women opening and actuallymaintainin a conversat

    Quote Originally Posted by BatMan View Post
    Sounds like you have a long journey in understanding what is happening with your game. I would start with Mystery Method and possibly learning about Opinion Openers. Hope this helps. Good luck
    I recently heard from Dj Fuji that indirect openers are bad for inner game.

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    Default Re: Need help approaching women opening and actuallymaintainin a conversat

    I think mystery method is good for beginners approaching groups. Just make sure you understand how and why it works. Hmm, DJ Fuji could be right. I think a more Direct Game proves inner confidence more but confidence comes from success. So I think it's a "fake it til you make" it kind of deal.

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    Default Re: Need help approaching women opening and actuallymaintainin a conversat

    Start by reading "The Game", it's like PUA's Bible
    Your confidence seems good since you said you approach groups of threes and fours. You just have to work on some techniques.
    maintaining a conversation isn't too hard, you can even do it by complimenting her hair (or more specifically the hairstyle or the colour of it) or a piece of clothing. I don't think you should do negs at that stage.
    Go to the field report area of the forum and read a few so you can see how more experienced guys actually do it, not only theory. Good luck

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    Default Re: Need help approaching women opening and actuallymaintainin a conversat

    Hey z,

    I agree with all of the above.

    However, if you want to approach in the interim, just try something simple and direct. Be fairly loud and confident when delivering: "hey, you're a fox." Hold out your hand and say, "c'me here i want to tell you something". Keep it out 'til she acknowledges and takes it, keep eye contact all the time, then pull her only slightly away from her friends but not too far to freak her out.

    Welcome to the game, bro'

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    Default Re: Need help approaching, opening and maintaining a conversation

    Younger girls are hard to open for me because they are really not mature enough to appreciate conversational skills of a guy. They just think your hot or not...boom. You could be a dumb as a box of rocks and they might go for you. For two reasons, they are probably just as shy as you are. Someone talking to them in a very charismatic adult manner may be intimidating for girls still accustomed to guys still pulling there hair to show attraction. Secondly, they don't know you. Young girls really are hit with the idea of "stranger danger" from parents and teachers. Younger girls clique up in malls and movie theaters because its a girly thing to do, but also because of safety in numbers. It also allows the shy/not so attractive girls to feel not so shy and much more attractive hanging out with other attractive women.

    I sucked at talking to girls when i was this age, they are at there most confusing stage in life in my opinion.

    My only suggestion is to involve girls in your movie outings. Bring any girl your age along, it could be your sister or anyone. It breaks up the group of guys routine and instead of looking like a pack of wolfs....you look like guys and girls having a good time. Be careful that the girls you bring are not "haters" in there own right and you should be fine. In close company, chances are the girls in your group might start to talk to the girls in the other group you want to know.

    I have had this happen, even when it was just me and my girlfriend. Two very attractive women sat next to us in a restaurant/cafe. They proceeded to converse and flirt with me while including my girlfriend in "girl talk". It was friendly and polite, i got damn near raped by my girl that night. She was turned on by the fact that these women found me so appealing and that i could flirt with all three of them but not make her jealous in the lease bit.


    Good luck


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