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    Default Re: Just To much - I am overdoing evertyhing

    I agree with a lot of what is written above. You shouldn't act like some negging doucebag. In fact, you shouldn't act like anything but what you truly are. Just mix in a piece of the proper Mindset, walk confidently, etc. But your overall core should be your own. The way you really are.

    To avoid the friend zone, go for the girl as soon as you think is possible. I believe "The Game" says you could k-close at three IOIs. If you don't grab your chance, girls are going to move on. You can just hang out like the chill dude you really are and do what you have to do when the time comes - like that k-close.

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    Default Re: Just To much - I am overdoing evertyhing

    Hey, Frixon. Dude, I think you've just done what all of us who read the game did. Because we got the fundamental Ideas from the book, we're filled with confidence, probably from realising that improving our game is possible, but forget that theory is all good, but very different to putting into practice. You're not alone, I did the same.

    I had a negging issue too. It's about doing it in the right way at the right time and in the right circumstances. For instance, at a house party one night, I was begging the target and I completely blew it. In hindsight this was probably because I forgot to remain the centre of attention whilst doing it, so then I'm just a douche in the corner firing off insults at a girl I just met lol.

    You are thinking too much into it. I used to do the same. The other guys here haw given you great advice already. Like Mr Onethousand said, the game is fun, have fun. Forget what anyone else thinks.

    All the best, man

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    Default Re: Just To much - I am overdoing evertyhing

    Everyone's previous comments are all useful! As a new student myself, I'd say negging is art. Tread that fine line of getting her to drop her shield or her self-value, while at the same time looking like a good guy for still accepting her for whatever flaw she has that you pointed out.

    But really, all of us new trainees are in the same boat! You just gotta go for it man. Explore what aspects of the game work best with who you are. The only way to do that is put what you study to use. Don't let the Venusian arts change you at the core, it's a lot easier if you start out working to destroy your sticking points.

    Before you go out, be prepared:

    -Say things to yourself like, "When a woman enters my world, I'll make it the best thing that has ever happened to her."
    -Remember that you don't NEED anything from a woman, you just want to share a good time with her.
    -Have routines off hand, openers, interesting statements, etc.
    -Remain the person who everyone else is observing.
    -BE DOMINANT IN YOUR ENVIRONMENT

    These are a few things that helped me. Hope they can help you a little bit as well. Best of luck.
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    Default Re: Just To much - I am overdoing evertyhing

    Look guys one thing you have to keep in the back of your mind is that the PUA technique is just like wearing training wheels. Even Style said something to the effect of.. becoming natural and that it felt like he wasn't even gaming girls anymore. PUA technique teaches you the art of being interesting and socializing.

    Just remember to start from the beginning: use an opener..raise your status..THEN neg..then create an emotional bond..then go for the Kino...

    Everything is a balance, and a neg is worthless if a girl doesn't think your interesting if you ask me. So don't worry @Erixzon just don't give up and remember to keep things balanced and in line..one step to the next.
    Last edited by KristiBell; 06-29-2012 at 08:05 AM.

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    Default Re: Just To much - I am overdoing evertyhing

    Thanks for everything guys, already been better. but ive come on more problems almost bigger ones, i need help being dominant! i really do suck at being dominant. im not the shy type of guy that stands in a group listening and giggles / small laughs when someone says something. i can talk i can tell. but im still not aplha centre of attention and stuff like that! i sometimes think some friends of me or girls think im abit of irritating. and i never getting text or calls from girls like hey any party is up? or hey how u doing etc... i always start the conversations and i think some of that makes me look desperate! so what should i do? i dont wanna come of desperate of attention. i just wanna be chill dude that doesent care that much but still gets it if you know what im saying, i dont want people to see that i really try to be the coolest! if you know what im saying. oh and one more thing, i am really really really afraid of k-close rejections! worst nightmare is to be on a party with friends and people you know you talk to a girl and when you know the time is right to k-close she rejects it, how do i know if she wants to or how do avoid this as smooth as possible? thanks again!
    Last edited by Erixzon; 07-01-2012 at 09:18 PM. Reason: adding stuff


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