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    Default Opinions wanted in regards to opening and building attraction

    I had a question in regards to opening and building attraction. Lets say for example, you are confident, comfortable with people, have strong beliefs (such as people love to be around you, your fun, etc) and this radiates in your body language, tone of voice etc, so basically your whole behavior is one big dhv, without you having to say anything because this is internally so strong, like Eric Von Sydow and other dominant men. What if women could sense this from you, constantly (remembering women are 10x better at reading people than us men are), how much techniques would you need? would you need any? In relation to the M3 model, would you need to follow the steps anymore? or would pickup just happen naturally? I would like to believe, eventually after all this, the pinnacle is that you as a person would be so attractive, this life just comes to you naturally with little effort. Is this possible, I'd like to think it is, or is this just a pipe dream??

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    Default Re: Opinions wanted in regards to opening and building attraction

    I believe what you are describing is a "natural". It has been my thought that once one has cultured the nesscesary "alpha" attitude and being, the techniques go out the window. I'd say by the time you've got this, pick-up should be intuitive, a product of life style rather than a formula or a task. I would however suppose that the pick-up would follow the same diagram, pick-up, attraction, comfort etc. I know a few guys who are like this (my uncle for instace) so in my experince its distinctly possible. Hope I answered your question

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    Default Re: Opinions wanted in regards to opening and building attraction

    Ah ok I understand, you get to a point where your behaviour is natural but the woman still will go through the same steps of emotions on her side, feel attraction, comfort, etc. Thanks! :-)

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    Default Re: Opinions wanted in regards to opening and building attraction

    Hey guys I'm new in the forum and somehow I have a strong believe in myself . But because I'm so direct and bold I could go from 5 miles to 100 in seconds. I had sex with many girls that I didn't like that much in the pass, so they were 5 or 6 the most. I just want the good ones the 7 and up to 10 now I'm challenged to pic up this model. And I need some advice, this girl is in my college class and I don't want to ruined by being so wild. We already exchanged a good firm hand shake, and when I looked at her in the eyes, she holded my gaze, sometimes I smile, sometimes I juts keep looking at her eyes and she holds mine but I notice that she drop her eyes to the side after a big stare we had today,and I kept mine. I need advice I also ask her if she was living with someone and she say no I then I asked her with who? with mom? and she say my boyfriend. And that was not her first respond( usually girls tell u about that they have a boyfriend in first place so) I'm a marine guys and honestly I do not give a fark about that boyfriend, but I need your expertise, I want to know the safest way and to not fark this meal. Should I trow some negs, should I tell her that I want her or should I ask her out or should I wait to build attraction? This is being my second time exchanging with her in class by the way.

    I'm sorry by me disrupting the prior original thread, but I do not know were to start a new one. Please help me out.

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    Default Re: Opinions wanted in regards to opening and building attraction

    Quote Originally Posted by cosagorda View Post
    Hey guys I'm new in the forum and somehow I have a strong believe in myself . But because I'm so direct and bold I could go from 5 miles to 100 in seconds. I had sex with many girls that I didn't like that much in the pass, so they were 5 or 6 the most. I just want the good ones the 7 and up to 10 now I'm challenged to pic up this model. And I need some advice, this girl is in my college class and I don't want to ruined by being so wild. We already exchanged a good firm hand shake, and when I looked at her in the eyes, she holded my gaze, sometimes I smile, sometimes I juts keep looking at her eyes and she holds mine but I notice that she drop her eyes to the side after a big stare we had today,and I kept mine. I need advice I also ask her if she was living with someone and she say no I then I asked her with who? with mom? and she say my boyfriend. And that was not her first respond( usually girls tell u about that they have a boyfriend in first place so) I'm a marine guys and honestly I do not give a fark about that boyfriend, but I need your expertise, I want to know the safest way and to not fark this meal. Should I trow some negs, should I tell her that I want her or should I ask her out or should I wait to build attraction? This is being my second time exchanging with her in class by the way.

    I'm sorry by me disrupting the prior original thread, but I do not know were to start a new one. Please help me out.
    I don't know why u didn't start a new thread but anyway here goes:
    -Not telling u about the bf is not necessarily an ioi.
    -Sure throw in a little negs and tease her.
    -Yes build attraction and build rapport u have to dip u're toe in the friendzone cuz she seems to be in a LTR and that's not always easy to get her out of
    -Read this: http://www.puaforums.com/how-seduce-...technique.html u of course need the LTR one but use the yes ladder after getting enough rapport to get u're first date
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    Default Re: Opinions wanted in regards to opening and building attraction

    Thank you Xavier for your response. This woman is a 10 ok. I'm not kidding here, she is being in modeling competitions for miss US. I would love to be with her in general. I just notice that besides the fact that she seats in class next to me when we have other empty chairs around, that she laugh and sustain Eye contact with me, she does not ask me things or my name or what do I think about this or that so I guess she is not that interested base on the ioi list that your refer me to. She is not really talkative, and I hate that. what to do pal?

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    Default Re: Opinions wanted in regards to opening and building attraction

    Good tips and Advice... help'd alot in my situation too... Thanks.. This site is awesome

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    Default Re: Opinions wanted in regards to opening and building attraction

    This is to Penticle's post about the M3 Model

    It's actually something I was wondering too. I started on Mystery Method, now my natural game is coming along and I wasn't sure if I'm operating outside the M3 model or if I'm still in it but don't notice consciously anymore. I think its a little of both.

    I've noticed in-field isn't quite as structured as M3 (If you open under conditions that give you greater value or comfort, then there's a some degree of blurring of the lines between A2, and C1). But of course none of us would be exactly here in PUArtistry if M3 wasn't pretty accurate despite it's flaws (I've found C3 - S3 to be pretty close to set-in-stone).

    I think that sexuality is like a thin threshold that exists between comfort and discomfort - a threshold that raises with time. (If I stick my tounge down a girls throat before asking her name then that's waaay above the sexuality threshold into discomfort - but after I raise that threshold after time then she and I might be making out in a dark corner with handstuff without breeching discomfort).

    Of course if more time goes by and I don't follow the naturally rising sexuality threshold then the comfort threshold will overtake me and I'll get stuck in the hell that is the friendzone.

    Wow, long post - in summary I think M3 works as a basic map (yet somewhat flexible like any map of a course from point A to point B) of the potential turning points that follow rising sexuality and Kino Escalation. The only flaws with it are in the details, but generally tends to be accurate half-the-time or more.

    Interesting philisophical questions regarding PU though - even if it's all waaaaay more of a theorhetical analysis than the practice of the art.
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    Default Re: Opinions wanted in regards to opening and building attraction

    Quote Originally Posted by cosagorda View Post
    Thank you Xavier for your response. This woman is a 10 ok. I'm not kidding here, she is being in modeling competitions for miss US. I would love to be with her in general. I just notice that besides the fact that she seats in class next to me when we have other empty chairs around, that she laugh and sustain Eye contact with me, she does not ask me things or my name or what do I think about this or that so I guess she is not that interested base on the ioi list that your refer me to. She is not really talkative, and I hate that. what to do pal?
    -u need to stop posting in this thread so if u have any other questions send me a visitor message or start a new thread (don't forget to post past details cuz i'll forget the situation)
    -she's not talkative maybe she's shy maybe she doesn't want to conciously flirt with other guys as long as she's with her bf
    -I told u be interesting tell her about some crazy story u had get her hooked in the conversation and then make her jump through hoops
    -when u get enough comfort proceed to destroy
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    Default Re: Opinions wanted in regards to opening and building attraction

    I think you should just make friends with her, since you say she is a model it will be super easy to have a resource to more girls. Good looking girls have lots of friends, and usually they are pretty damn good looking too. Its pretty much effortless getting a girl if your friends with her friends its a done deal. Your better of becoming friends with her.


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