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    Default Persisting after rejection

    I was passing through a park and saw a girl who was taking a survey from people, I first passed her but few seconds later I decided to hit on her because she was way too hot to let go. so I returned and sat in a distant and watched her, finally when she was alone sitting a chair I approached with a good vibe and started a conversation about whats the survey about, can I help you etc. and when I tried to escalate and make the conversation personal about two of us, she started rejecting me: "look! I'm not here to find a friend" I keep persisting by convincing her you are an open minded girl you study sociology so you should not act like that, I complimented her on her eyes and gave out a lot of dlv in the conversation, she tried to leave several times but I just couldn't let her go she was a solid HB10 and I finally convinced her to wait for her to finish her survey, and after that I walked with her to near her home, had a good conversation and number closed. kinda friend-zoned but won to some extend because I face rejection 95% of the times on my cold approaches.

    What do you guys think? is it ok to persist after rejection on nice girls who let you do so?

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    Default Re: Persisting after rejection

    Firstly, I want to say that I admire your courage to persist and it obviously paid off a little. Though, because you persisted, but it will be hugely difficult to get out of the frien zone.

    I'd normally advise not to persist. You're an alpha male, you don't need the approval of others. To your mind there are HB10s everywhere that want to spend time with you.

    Probably not a good idea to compliment after rejection. After she said "I'm not looking for a friend here" (which in a way is almost a Sh1t Test I think) I would have said something like "that's a shame, you seemed like a friendly person, I guess not. I came over to see what was going on with you. I mean you're beautiful, but beauty is common. I thought there might be a bit more to you. I guess I was wrong" and go to leave. I've done something like this before and she stopped me and said "I'm sorry I've just had a bad day". And we carried on talking.

    You have to approach willing to lose the girl. Think about it, HB10s are probably hit on and see persistence every day. You could have been the 10th guy to do it that day. They wouldn't expect a response like my example.

    Good luck, man, hope this helped.

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    Default Re: Persisting after rejection

    I agree with you Gemini, I could lead the conversation in many other ways to get better results, but my mind kinda blanked out and I lost a bit of my confidence around her, I persisted because she was nice to me and that survey gave me topics to talk about for days.
    That was a Sh1t Test you are right, she was playing hard to get, I had to hold my frame for longer.

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    Default Re: Persisting after rejection

    Provided you see this as a learning curve rather than a failure, you're on the right track. Don't worry about that. It happens. Sometimes in set I, despite the fact that I am normally great in social situations and good with people, can't get past my opener and my mind goes blank and I have nothing else to say. We'll all get there. One step at a time .

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    Default Re: Persisting after rejection

    Of course I see myself improving we should learn from our failures and try not repeat our mistakes

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    Default Re: Persisting after rejection

    Exactly! I'm glad to see that you have that view . So many people get all upset about it. Good Mindset, my friend .

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    Default Re: Persisting after rejection

    I'm always impressed to hear these stories about fellow PUAs persisting and plowing. It's totally not my style. When I first started getting really into PUA, I'd auto-eject at the first sign of an IOD because "I am the prize." Now I'm realizing that my attitude should me more "I have other options if this doesn't work out." On Saturday night, my wing and I re-entered the same set three time before we finally number-closed the girls. I think that it's really important to respect a woman's boundaries and not come on too strong. It's good that you are watching for the IOIs and writing about your experience to re-play things that you might not have seen in set. I've found journaling about my experience in field really helps me see the details that I missed when I was in the moment. It also gives me an opportunity to re-write what I might have said so that I can do it again better next time.

    Is it worth it to chase after a gal who isn't really into you? I had a date schedule two weeks ago with a really hot Kenyan gal. I'd seen her twice before and had her over to my place. She canceled less than 30 minutes before we were scheduled to meet up for salsa without even coming up with a decent excuse. I don't have much respect for my people who cancel at the last minute, and I'd been really looking forward to seeing her since our last meet up. I never responded to her text and went ahead with the salsa plans looking for another gal who likes to dance.

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    Default Re: Persisting after rejection

    Quote Originally Posted by PUAatmosphere View Post
    I'm always impressed to hear these stories about fellow PUAs persisting and plowing. It's totally not my style. When I first started getting really into PUA, I'd auto-eject at the first sign of an IOD because "I am the prize." Now I'm realizing that my attitude should me more "I have other options if this doesn't work out." On Saturday night, my wing and I re-entered the same set three time before we finally number-closed the girls. I think that it's really important to respect a woman's boundaries and not come on too strong. It's good that you are watching for the IOIs and writing about your experience to re-play things that you might not have seen in set. I've found journaling about my experience in field really helps me see the details that I missed when I was in the moment. It also gives me an opportunity to re-write what I might have said so that I can do it again better next time.

    Is it worth it to chase after a gal who isn't really into you? I had a date schedule two weeks ago with a really hot Kenyan gal. I'd seen her twice before and had her over to my place. She canceled less than 30 minutes before we were scheduled to meet up for salsa without even coming up with a decent excuse. I don't have much respect for my people who cancel at the last minute, and I'd been really looking forward to seeing her since our last meet up. I never responded to her text and went ahead with the salsa plans looking for another gal who likes to dance.
    I never chase girls, but when It comes to pick up, I practice persisting because it helps me grow a thick hide, and control my anxiety, get comfortable around girls etc. it has worked for me too, all the girls I have get through cold approach faced rejection at some point, I could eject and get nothing, but I persisted and it get me to their pants

    I know rejection is not part of the proper pickup, I know I get rejected because I have some flaws in my game. but until the day that I become smooth with women, I have to get girls with this dirty ways

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    Default Re: Persisting after rejection

    Nothing wrong with getting some resistance and the occasional IOD. It sounds like in your experience rejection is just part of the flirting dance. And if you weren't getting some resistance, I'd have to say that you weren't been aggressive enough.

    David DeAngelo talks making persistence into a game with his cock-funny technique. He jokingly comes on to her really strong. The girls say, "No way. I could never date a player like you." He keeps up the humor, while still not hiding his intentions.

    Recently I've been erring more on the side of caution and careening off into the friend zone. It's great to see other PUAs who are bring such different styles to this material. Do you use direct openers for your cold approaches? It seems like you are getting pretty good at teasing. Otherwise she wouldn't have let you walk her home.

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    Default Re: Persisting after rejection

    Quote Originally Posted by PUAatmosphere View Post
    Nothing wrong with getting some resistance and the occasional IOD. It sounds like in your experience rejection is just part of the flirting dance. And if you weren't getting some resistance, I'd have to say that you weren't been aggressive enough.
    Yeah, specially in my area, but I had prefect pick ups too (only twice), when everything went smooth and the girl asked for my number herself or even asked me for a date right there
    it's worth mentioning that those girl turned out to have very high levels of self esteem and at the end they crushed my game and left me with nothing.

    but on the other end, the girls which play hard to get and refuse to talk turn out having lower self esteem and social intelligence thus less attractive and easier to game.

    Quote Originally Posted by PUAatmosphere View Post
    David DeAngelo talks making persistence into a game with his cock-funny technique. He jokingly comes on to her really strong. The girls say, "No way. I could never date a player like you." He keeps up the humor, while still not hiding his intentions.
    yeah I try to do cocky funny, but I'm not sure if I'm a genuine cocky funny or no?

    Quote Originally Posted by PUAatmosphere View Post
    Do you use direct openers for your cold approaches? It seems like you are getting pretty good at teasing. Otherwise she wouldn't have let you walk her home.
    Yeah recently I only use direct openers or no openers at all. I tried opinion openers for a while but got no results. with them, but I should try to get better with them cause in some situations they work better.

    I'm not very bad at teasing, but in my cold approaches I suck at teasing, until I get a little comfortable.


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