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    To many puas I feel fall into the rythm of one method. They study the game for years and develope a favorite technique. Which I feel limits the flow of women in various enviorments. Now adays the popular thing is Direct Game. Its about being straight forward and direct. Knowing what you want and taking it. Where as Indirect Game is for afcs and Mystery method is old stalk.
    I feel that people should study as many methods as they possibly can, other wise your constricting your flow of HBs to one branch instead of multiple. All of us should be striving to become mpuas not just puas. Mpuas can pickup in any enviorment go after any girl. If you study strictly direct game. You'll do squat in a night club and visa versa.
    Sometimes Direct game may not be the way to go. If the womens got b1tchy vibe, it might be a good idea to neg or at least show a lack of interest. I did it to a girl the other day with one of my friends and the she invited us out to hang with her next friday. That would not have worked if i had used direct game.
    Studying one method is limiting yourself, I'm currently studying juggler method and push/pull.
    As puas we are supposed to constantly lean over our boundary lines and put ourselves into situations that arent exactly comfortable. As a pua your journey should never have a peak. Your abilities should never have a limit. And if your too comfortable in one enviorment there is no growth. Learn many methods for many situations, don't stick to one.
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    I find your post very interesting 0Rooster0. Even though I have a respect for Direct Game I feel that Indirect Game is being undermined as the "weaker" style of gaming.

    The whole idea we got into PUA is because men would cut some corners to try and get her to go home since they had no idea what to do with women anyways so they had nothing to lose. Now that we understand a bit better it seems cutting corners is still considered the prominent style.

    In my opinion direct game is not taking into account the natural progression of an emotional relationship and cuts corners to try and skip some steps. I wouldn't want to think how it would be like if famous artists throughout history decided to cut corners and only painted half a painting or wrote half a song. It's easy to say use your body language and confidence if you yourself are at least an 8. But what about the guys that are 5s & 6s on a physical level. The risks for direct game get even higher since you are conveying your interest early and your value is based purely on your looks and style.

    Mystery made a good analogy.... If you have ever played chess then you should know something called "Fool's Mate." It is the fastest way to beat someone in chess.....ever. The thing is that pulling off "Fools Mate" does not make you a chess champion since the moves only work if your opponent responds in a certain way. I actually did fools mate myself......in middle school. Was I a chess genius? No. I just played against someone that didn't play chess very well. Someone that knew the game would NEVER fall for it and the consequences would be that I would expose my most important pieces and they would wipe me out. So any chess champion knows to play a SOLID game with low risk to increase their chances dramatically. Yes it takes more brain power and time to be able to pull this off.....but he plays a solid game nonetheless. But I digress...

    This turned into a bit of a rant I guess lol. I still appreciate and use direct game. PUAs should be flexible and learn both styles. However maybe this will open up some healthy debates.

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    Default Re: Methods

    Quote Originally Posted by BatMan View Post
    I find your post very interesting 0Rooster0. Even though I have a respect for Direct Game I feel that Indirect Game is being undermined as the "weaker" style of gaming.

    The whole idea we got into PUA is because men would cut some corners to try and get her to go home since they had no idea what to do with women anyways so they had nothing to lose. Now that we understand a bit better it seems cutting corners is still considered the prominent style.

    In my opinion direct game is not taking into account the natural progression of an emotional relationship and cuts corners to try and skip some steps. I wouldn't want to think how it would be like if famous artists throughout history decided to cut corners and only painted half a painting or wrote half a song. It's easy to say use your body language and confidence if you yourself are at least an 8. But what about the guys that are 5s & 6s on a physical level. The risks for direct game get even higher since you are conveying your interest early and your value is based purely on your looks and style.

    Mystery made a good analogy.... If you have ever played chess then you should know something called "Fool's Mate." It is the fastest way to beat someone in chess.....ever. The thing is that pulling off "Fools Mate" does not make you a chess champion since the moves only work if your opponent responds in a certain way. I actually did fools mate myself......in middle school. Was I a chess genius? No. I just played against someone that didn't play chess very well. Someone that knew the game would NEVER fall for it and the consequences would be that I would expose my most important pieces and they would wipe me out. So any chess champion knows to play a SOLID game with low risk to increase their chances dramatically. Yes it takes more brain power and time to be able to pull this off.....but he plays a solid game nonetheless. But I digress...

    This turned into a bit of a rant I guess lol. I still appreciate and use direct game. PUAs should be flexible and learn both styles. However maybe this will open up some healthy debates.
    I totally agree with your views on indirect game. honestly I thought you were going to beat your chest about direct game, I'm personally inclined to indirect as well.

    At the same time certain situations would not be right for mystery method. For instance if a girls with her mom, if you try to go indirect the moms going to go into cock block mode and fuck up your game. If you walk up and say your adorable then the mothers going to think thats cute and get out of your way. At least thats how I feel. I want to be able to pickup girls in all situations. I think thats why my game can be so varied depending on the enviorment.
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