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Thread: My View on Negs

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    Default My View on Negs

    So I've noticed that there's been some talk on here about Direct vs. Indirect Game, when to use which, and a lot of it has been about the use of negs. In a recent post, a comment from Cody said:

    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    My personal opinion:

    Don't neg. Negging is an oxymoron in PU. Here are the two self-conflicting ideals:

    I am high value.

    I have to neg her to knock her down to my level.

    If you are high value, why would you need to knock her down? High value people don't take value from others. They add value to those surrounding them.

    Forget this girl. On to the next one. If she wants to hang out with you then she'll hit you up, but you're too high value to waste your time chasing girls. Go spend time with one of the others in your phone.
    I partially agree with this, as it brings up a very good point, but I think that there is a certain way to do it. I don't really like Mystery's way of negging (i.e. Do you ever dye your hair blonde? Oh.....well your hair color is still nice.).

    Rather, I prefer doing it in a playful way. For example, the other day I was texting a girl and we were talking about cars. The important part went as follows:

    HB: Yes!! haha. I love imports. But I'm more into form rather than function.
    Me: Oh so you don't care about the environment? :P
    HB: Whaaat?! Of course I do! I drive a Mazda 3, 40 mpg. Stance doesn't hurt the environment.

    While I did use the general concept of a neg, I did it in a way that isn't really insulting. She could tell that I was joking (through the use of a smiley since it was in a text, in person it would have been done with a playful smile and a touch/slight push on the shoulder). However, she stilled did the qualifying by saying she does care about the environment and how her car gets so many MPG.

    I've been using this technique for a while now and have always gotten positive results. I have never fully tried Mystery's way of negging by putting down someone as that is not my style and I don't feel comfortable with that. However, I do like to still employ negs, just in a much more playful and joking manner.



    Well, that's my opinion of negs. Feel free to critique it and help to perfect it!

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    Default Re: My View on Negs

    I totally agree, I think we need a broader term to explain negs. Theirs tons of adaptations of the neg that I feel work great.
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    Default Re: My View on Negs

    thats not a neg, your teasing her. Huge difference. negs are knock girls down. Teasing, done properly creates comfort and keeps the conversation fun. Think about it, all the people you tease are generally people you have good amount of comfort with.

    You don't tease your college professor do you? But you tease your best friend.

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    Default Re: My View on Negs

    DreZee has a point. A neg is simply "noticing she is not perfect" Teasing is a great tool since negs seem to have a lot of debate surrounding it and not just because of the misunderstanding of them.
    Ex: after shaking her hand you say "Your hands are sweaty....What are you guys drinking tonight?"
    or you pick and "eye boogie" from her face while you are telling a story.

    Value is based on perception. No matter how high value you think you are, you still have to find a way to get HER to see that same value in you. Which is the whole point of PUA because there is a very good chance that when she meets you for the first time, that you have the same value as every other guy that tried to game her.

    There is a concept called "active disinterest" and it basically means that you are out in the night club and you know you are cool so women just come to you. Unfortunately this Mindset usually has them standing in their corner the entire night.....alone. This is where teasing, disqualifiers, qualifying, push/pull, and if you so choose....negs all come into play to create that value gap between you and her. This applies to many scenarios and not just nightclubs.

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    Default Re: My View on Negs

    I agree with these points. Having to bring her value down to bring yours up is to assume she has higher value in the first place and this can mess up your Mindset.

    I don't neg as such, I tend to throw out a disqualifier that is not a negative comment to her. I'll use a neg-like comment, but only in a playful teasing way.

    : GeMiNi :&


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