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    Default Opener used on me!

    So I am at a bus stop in Shenzhen, trying to make out Chinese characters in the timetable, when this beauty steps up, interrupts me and loudly asks "Hey, you can READ CHINESE??"

    A great opener, and although we only shared three stops, I had her phone number, email and QQ account, or rather she had mine.

    Ok, perhaps this won't work in the other direction. Loudly congratulating girls on their literacy is not going to get me phone numbers, but the whole experience gave me an idea of how a pickup should feel for a woman. A knock out opener, some playful chitchat and five minutes later she is gone and I am wondering "wow how did that happen??"

    Of course, I spent the next two days chatting and texting before I meet her again, trying to suss out is she for real or is she trying to sell me something, trying to get a western visa, steal my kidneys, but no, just seems to be friendly, playful and sometimes insecure about her looks, the usual.

    Of course, if you read about some dumb westerner waking up in China without his kidneys then you will know, I was wrong.

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    Default Re: Opener used on me!

    Haha - great post

    plus 30 characters

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    Default Re: Opener used on me!

    Really watch your drinks around this girl! Good luck though man. I hope it works out great for you!

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    Default Re: Opener used on me!

    The story continues... So actually it is getting stranger, and I am starting to get suspicious. She was a little standoffish at the weekend blowing off a couple of dates the night before or the morning due to illness etc. But then always coming back with nice requests like "come do yoga with me", "come to Disneyland Hong Kong with me and my sister" I turn these down. I tell her that we should meet for coffee first so I know that she is not a lunatic. But then we have a great coffee date at McDonalds (she can't eat anything here because she is vegetarian - whatever). She asks to meet me later, and I agree but blows it off again. However, I drop her a little present of cheap honey (against my better judgement). This seems to change her mood a lot the next day. I flirt with her on and off during the day with skype and QQ (Chinese MSN). It seems to work, we set up another date. Now it gets weird. She texts me a few hours before that "Sth happened. I'm crying. I dunno if I can meet u later. When I feel better I call u" Fine - blow off again, so I say "Oh are you OK? If you want to talk call me, otherwise its ok, we can meet some other time." That's OK, I half expected it, but then I get this txt: "Fish (not my real name).. If someone gonna stay my place tonight can I go ur place to sit down and talk?" NOW THE ALARM BELLS ARE RINGING I text back "Sure no problem. I am on my way home, I will call you" I rush home, hide my passport and credit cards in various parts of my tiny apartment and shower. Earlier in the day I had moved the venue from one Starbucks to a different one, set up a few ideas in my head about places to take her, go for a walk etc. She wants to learn French, so I thought I would teach her French gestures, because that affords Kino opportunities. So I text her back, when does she want to meet up and she puts the original date back on, in the original Starbucks. I feel like a wildebeest in the long grass. I am being stalked. I don't know how this will end. In my head 50% it's a Damsel in distress scam, 50% she really has had some trouble... I will let you all know!!!

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    Default Re: Opener used on me!

    Well, no need for paranoia. Turns out she is in a abusive working relationship. One of her superiors wants to be her "special friend". Threatening to show up at her apartment. Ouch. She needs to stay away from her apartment for a few hours. Sounds good but she tells me such a tale of woe, it completely puts me off my game.

    Not only does she have this work problem. She was in a relationship for 11 years since she was 17. Then moved to China from another Asian country, her super rich BF cheats on her and she leaves him. She works in this company and is trying to change the culture from within. She believes she has got everyone to be polite to one another and feels proud of this but doesn't want to leave. She suffers badly from excess loyalty. 11 years with this one creep who after a year apart tells her he can't find anyone like her offers her money, a house and an expensive car if she will have a child. Actually offers her a contract really. She is on some kind of rebound. From the constant stream of texts and messages I think these stories seem to be true.

    I can't lie, I tell her that her superior will never give up stalking or hitting on her. Also loads of other guys are chasing her at work. I tell her that she must give up her job, however much she likes it.

    It is very difficult to move things along in this situation. She talks and talks, eventually she burns out the subject and I manage to get her out of Starbucks. I mentioned the name of a bread shop and somehow the word bread is like a magic word with her. She can't eat anything here, and lives on bread. I tell her she is getting her life back together, I buy her some juice and perhaps with the raised blood sugar I manage to cheer her up. It goes a lot better from then on, I get her walking, moving, laughing, and I try some Kino.

    But at this stage my head is addled, I haven't eaten anything except coffee for hours. I had thought this was going to turn into some kind of dinner or food date. As luck would have it we live on the same floor (another reason why I was suspicious). I show her my apartment and she shows me hers, feeds me chocolate. She asks me out to dinner. There is some lingering touch at the door, but I do not Phase Shift - I am just too confused.

    I am not used to being in this situation. She is acting like a female PUA. I know I could have reciprocated more. Maybe I am falling into the friend zone, but then again, maybe this is a good thing, because this lady, however sexy she is, is trouble. I just know it. Still, there is always dinner tomorrow night.


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