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    Default Kino's Solo Gaming Advice

    Hey guys, I have been meaning to post about solo gaming for quite some time and finally Gemini’s post (Sarging Solo?)pushed me to finally get it done.

    Look, guys I know many of you are reluctant to game solo and I can understand your line of thinking. Is it a dlv, isn’t it better to have a wing, etc etc. Well brethren, Kino is has some wonderful news for you. Solo gaming may actually be superior than gaming with wings…if you don’t have master wings.

    Keep in mind there are two pregame steps that you’ll always want to take, setting up a cover story and establishing social proof.

    Step One: Establish a cover story
    I have a cover story that has yet to fail me. It goes like this, “Well, my friend was meeting me here and he got a call from a girl that he hooks up with. He told me she called but he wasn’t going to cancel because I had just got here. I was like bro, “You, Sir have a duty to the booty. You get over there right now and you break her off something proper. Don’t you dare come here, because the bro code will require that I punch you in the face.” Men or women, this usually elicits a laugh and many times with women it leads to a sexual conversation immediately.

    Step Two: Social Proof
    Guys , there is a very simple secret to establishing instant rapport with any group of guys on the planet. It goes like this, “OMG, did you see that smoking blonde that just walked by?” Trust me, you will be instant pals.

    Now you have your pregame done it’s time to get down to business. First of all, realize that a wing is not always a good thing. When you sarge with a wing, you are somewhat at the mercy of their skill set. You are influenced by their moods, their Approach Anxiety, and many times their lousy winging. I have some great friends of mine and just this past month they messed up three sets for me. They actually apologized because they knew they messed the sets up.

    In one example, I started teasing a group of girls having a bachelorette party. It was fast and funny and they enjoyed my light teasing. I quickly isolated the HB9 in a matter of minutes. She loved me, perfect compliance and a ton of IOI’s. Out of the corner of my eye I see my wing is still running with the cocky funny, but it is no longer teasing it has gone into full blown I’m a cocky jerk. He killed the buzz with the group. I’m watching this happen and I know I need to stop it ASAP. I stand up tell my wing and the tables I’ll be right back. I go to the bar to buy the bachelorette a drink that was on her to do list. My wing walks up behind me and I thought to myself “crap” I told him “Bro, you should have stayed. I needed to make a peace offering because you are going way to far with the cocky funny. It isn’t funny anymore.” I walk out drink in hand and they had literally moved his empty seat away from their table, mine was still there but this was flipping awkward as hell. He saw his seat moved and told me he was going to the car. I placed the drink on the table and they all smiled, they all loved me, but my wing had been completely rejected. Basically, this sarge was over.

    Another time, I started a kokology thread and had a 6, 7 and most importantly an 8 with a body of a goddess eating out of the palm of my hand. I isolated the leader of the group with the intent of coming back and isolating the 8, she already loved me. In the few minutes we were away from the group, my wing decided to try his hand at kokology and didn’t do very well…at all…really bad….and totally killed the buzz I had created so they went from eating out of the palm of my hand to wanting to bounce to another venue in a matter of minutes. Again the sarge was over. Now these are my boys, it was just a few bad nights and I still love those guys.

    Gentlemen, it took me a while to figure out why I was so successful solo sarging but over time it became crystal clear. There is a unique dynamic to solo sarging that I have learned to love. IF YOU ESTABLISH HIGH ENOUGH SOCIAL VALUE THE WOMEN WILL BECOME YOUR WINGS!!!

    Let me explain further, in a social setting of two on two, it becomes understood that you will pair off. If your wing doesn’t hook his target, she will require the attention of her friend limiting your effectiveness or your time. Here is the magic of the solo sarge, when one guy has engaged two or three girls and he has built value with the entire group. When he chooses a target the girls will recognize what’s going on and in the interest of their friend they will give you two some space. In some cases, they have flat out said “oh, you should get to know my friend a little better” or I have seen them look directly at my target and give a nod of approval right in front of me. This has NEVER happened to me with a wing, the social dynamics are simply different. In the girls minds they are doing their friend a favor by allowing her to talk to such a high value male without distraction. Guys when this happens, you are golden. You are in a zone that very few wings can take you The reason being once a woman has the approval of her friends she will be completely relaxed and open with you. If her friends approve then she approves.

    Don’t fret solo sarging, embrace it, challenge yourself and prosper. The first time the GF’s clear the path for you to sarge your target, it’s truly a game changer. Go out, try it and see for yourself.

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    BTW, I ended up sarging this next set by myself because the girls were so vicious. You can see where my original wings were liabilities. I don’t go into a lot of detail about it but her friend became the only wing that could help me out and thankfully she did. Here’s an example of when solo sarging saved the day. Kino's Severe Sh!t Test

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    Default Re: Kino's Solo Gaming Advice

    Hey great post man, the stories and techniques you lay down keep me coming back to these forums although I don't post much. In regards to solo game I find it really hard to just go out by myself. Me and a bud are at a novice level and I just feel more comfortable when he's there and i can talk with him in between sets rather than stand by myself. However sometimes we get in each other way during sets I know I've blown some sets and him as well. My friend isn't into the game as much as myself but reading Ur post it's really clear how much Ur wing can affect the set and that u and Ur wing really need to be on the same page/level. I think I'm going to get him to go deeper down the rabbit hole.

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    Default Re: Kino's Solo Gaming Advice

    Thanks, Chinchilla. Again, knowing that someone is reading and benefiting from my posts really is a blessing. Thanks for sharing.

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    Default Re: Kino's Solo Gaming Advice

    Great post Kino. I agree with all of it. Never thought of a clever reason to explain why I am out by myself. But I will use that. And usually I have female friends anyways and they really do make great wingmen. The simplicity of your game is refreshing and hope more PUAs take notes.

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    Default Re: Kino's Solo Gaming Advice

    Wel, Kino, I'm glad I could inspire you to achieve your intention of writing this post lol. And I'm glad you did, your posts have saved me from unfamiliar game many times.

    This is gold. I will definitely use your reason for being there alone. It shows you hadn't intended it and that you actually stayed there alone to help your buddy. Good dhv.

    I have decided that a good way to start out would be to get to the venue where I intend to meet some friends about 30 minutes early. That way I'm motivated to engage sets and befriend people, but if it goes wrong I'm only alone for a short time. What do you think? Thanks again for the great post, Kino.

    : GeMiNi :&

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    Default Re: Kino's Solo Gaming Advice

    That's a great idea, gemini. Seriously, that is a fantastic way to get some practice in on a consistent basis.

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    Default Re: Kino's Solo Gaming Advice

    I can't even describe how good this is. Awesome job, Kino.
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    Default Re: Kino's Solo Gaming Advice

    Thanks, Kino. I will definitely give that a try then. One question, if youre there alone, how can you set a false time constraint?

    : GeMiNi :&

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    Default Re: Kino's Solo Gaming Advice

    Hey Kino, thanks for another great thread. Is this about sarging in a club setting, or will it work in a bar as well?

    btw what is a kokology thread ?

    It seems some of this stuff might be a bit advanced for me. Can't wait for your book.

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    Default Re: Kino's Solo Gaming Advice

    One question, if youre there alone, how can you set a false time constraint?

    : GeMiNi :&[/QUOTE]

    I no longer use false time constraints, typically use what I call the "Opt In". FTC look and smell a little to much like "The Game for me", also they are unneccesary if "she" continues the conversation. I structure openers and transtions that require the girls to pull me into the group very quickly.

    Just the other night my opener was about cheating and the girl goes, "well when you have been in that situation like I have been." I came back and said "Now, you mentioned your situation, is this something you want to explain..." She replied, "Oh yeah, blah, blah..."

    I might use the palm flash. (As soon as I finish my open, I use my phone to flash their palm and say, I knew it, typically look away like I am breaking the conversation off. When they pull me back in "Hey, what...what does that mean?"

    If they are the initiators, I find no need to FTC.


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