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    Default Anyway of reacting to being completely ignored when opening?

    Gentlemen,

    This question stems from a rather awkward and embarrassing situation I experienced recently. It was the first time I had experienced anything like this, and want to be fully prepped should it occur again.

    Essentially, I approached a girl in a bar with a pretty standard opener which usually works well, and was just utterly blanked. No reaction or acknowledgement of me being even physically present.

    I am over six foot tall, well built, have a deep voice I project well, and have worked in voice-over; point being I'm quite difficult to miss; so was definitely on the receiving end of a mortifying Freeze Out here. Mortifying as everyone else in the pub could see what I was up to, and were paying me a great deal more attention then she was.

    So this is what occurred:

    I noticed a blonde, attractive girl at the bar. I was already pretty close to her when ordering a drink, so I just casually said:

    'That's what I like to see! Relaxing at the bar with a good book and drink; what more could you want?'

    Simple situational opener which usually elicits a positive response. She, however, sat and stared at the floor opposite me like I was at a car-boot sale selling really rubbish stuff.

    My response was to wait a couple of seconds, and then sad to say:

    'HEEELLLLLOOOOOO.'

    To which she replied 'What do you want?'

    Not good. Luckily my drinks had just arrived at that point so I was able just to mutter: 'These. Have a good day, bye.' And scuttle off.

    So, obviously the way I dealt with that was horrible, and on reflection the girl was obviously in ultra-strong armour mode as I was probably the 12th guy that hour to approach her.

    So gents, in case of future repeats, what do you think best practice is when confronted with this?

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    Default Re: Anyway of reacting to being completely ignored when opening?

    Based on what you told us it could be several things. May not even have to do with you personally. Next time that happens just push through....

    "Hey this is a fun place. You should smile more, when you don't it adds 10 years..." smile and look her in the eye when you say this. If she still is not opening up then you can follow with "Oh playing hard to get....I can do that to. Hmph (fold your arms)....Don't talk to me until I get my dog back. This is the worst breakup EVER I swear!" This all has to be extremely playful. Master frame control and you will always have game on the fly and will be able to calibrate to anything. So keep pushing until it looks like she is about to slap you or get a bouncer on you. (This rarely happens, but just be mindful. You can't get them all) Just thought of Pokemon...

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    Default Re: Anyway of reacting to being completely ignored when opening?

    It sounds like she has a boyfirend bro
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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    Default Re: Anyway of reacting to being completely ignored when opening?

    One important detail is that this was an ex-pat pub in Sri Lanka - attractive blonde girls on holiday here under 30 are a rarity. If they are seen at all, that pub is the place. Of course, then all the other ex-pats see them and go into an AFC frenzy of terrible approaches eg 'Hi wanna come sit with me aand my drunk friends?' 'umm so what are you doing later umm?' etc etc

    I'm sure I was idiot number fifteen and she was just exasperated.

    Ho hum.

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    Default Re: Anyway of reacting to being completely ignored when opening?

    Ooof Ex-Pat game. Sure she spoke English? She could've been Russian or German or something.

    If she's in that only blonde in Sri-Laka (hyperbolyically) I'd say go for the swoop (where you see an AFC hitting on her, then catch her eye and be like "hey! you made it!" - saving her from a creeper) or open the set next to her and air-strike neg her (where you throw out shotgun Negs while you're in a different set or while walking past, without even glancing at her for a response. The air strike lowers her value from the "only-blonde-in-Asia-status" and makes her want to qualify.

    But hell maybe just opening with "So how many creepers did you get this week?" could be enough to hook her under the right conditions.

    I also have had BIG problems with using rhetorical questions like "...what more could you want?"

    There's not really anywhere to transition with a rhetorical in the opener - she could answer literally and actually tell you what more she wants (unlikely) - she could spark up all bright-eyed and talk about how she really enjoys whatever is happening (unlikely) - or she could shrug it off as "yeah I'm good on my own, thanks." and then it's over (most likely). I'd say take the rhetoricals out of your game until mid - late game, and even then just as figures of speech - rhetoricals tend to be conversational dead-ends.

    But Sri Lanka though O.o You could always pretend to be from another country than you are and open Ex-pat chicks as if you barely speak English... dunno if it would work tho

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    Default Re: Anyway of reacting to being completely ignored when opening?

    I get this probably once a night. The area im from around has notoriously stuck up women, so I get plenty of practice and feel well prepared to tell you what works for me.

    I have noticed that girls who are doing something alone at the bar or club (reading or texting etc) are extremely defensive. I usually opt for two cocky funny consecutive situational openers to deal with rejection like that, before calling her out on it.

    Your second opener was "Hellloooo?" In my opinion that should be your third and final attempt!

    I would of said to your lady (although I think your opener was fine) -
    "Hey." Clearly so she has your attention. If she ignores you, time for opener two. If not, game on.

    "Please tell me that's not fifty shades of Grey your reading?" (If it is or not, everyone is reading that book at the moment, and sets a sexual Tension from the off as you can go into the plot of the book, scenes etc in conversation)

    If there is still no response, up the ante a bit and call her out on ignoring. Remeber your not being rude, or intimidating. It is her being the bitch and she will know it by know. By this point it's obvious so she has heard you so 90% of girls will react, either negatively or positively.

    If you'r still being blanked call her out on her rudeness.

    "Geeez. At least girls who read Kindles arn't rude."

    If that doesn't work, its probably time to call it a day. Write your number down and leave it with her. Pretend your not being ignored!

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    Default Re: Anyway of reacting to being completely ignored when opening?

    When a girls ask you "What do you want?" / "Why are you talking to me?" (or something similar)

    A good reply is "Well, I always do that... I always talk to people I'm curious about. That's all." & Smile the whole time.
    Just like it's totally normal for you to talk to new people.

    Just be unfazed & totally polite.

    Usually (but not always) the girl will feel bad for being so uptight at first & apologize, then drop her b1tch shield.


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