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Thread: So, I tried the "Dog Crap" opener....

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    Default So, I tried the "Dog Crap" opener....

    Ok, today at lunch I decided to try the "dog crap" opener that I jokingly threw out in a post. (You can read the entire thread here)

    I was feeling the mood & decided it was the best time to give it a go.

    The Attempt: (Her: About 5'5", thin, brunette with shorter hair & a couple visible tats. Looked like an aspiring model/hipster type in her mid-late 20's - So I thought she would have a sense of humor & not take offense if this bombs. I'd rate her an 8 - 8.5)

    The whole conversation was about 2-3 minutes)

    As I approached & started to speak, I had a quick flash of anxiety & thought to myself, "Am I really doing this?? Too late to stop now because here come the words..."

    **the conversation isn't exactly word for word, & I don't remember everything.. but the context & overall flow went like this**

    I couldn't remember exactly what I planned on saying. My mind sort of blanked out & I only remembered it had something to do with "crap" & "being lucky". So I basically bumbled my way through it, half laughing at the same time.

    "You're pretty lucky.. you stepped right over that pile of crap back there" (again, I'm sort of giggling as I'm saying it) She looked puzzled & confused for a second & then looked back to where I was pointing.

    That's when my memory returned & I realized my next line was supposed to be "Oh, my bad, it was just a leaf. But from here it looked a lot more grotesque."
    However; there was no leaf.... In fact, there was nothing but a flat, completely debris-free section of sidewalk.

    So now the full blown wave of laughter sets in... which thankfully, laughter is contagious, and SHE starts laughing because I am.

    So I was thinking at this point, "aaahhhh fock it! Just wing it from here genius..."

    I said, "Ok, here's the deal... I really just wanted to stop you because you caught my eye. I'm Mark."

    Her: (laughing) "Hi, I'm Kate."
    Me: "Hello Kate, It's very nice to meet you, & lucky for you, you did NOT step in a pile of dog crap today. I hope your lucky streak continues."
    Her: (still laughing) "Oh me too!"
    Me: Ok, as long as I'm harassing you at the moment & you're being a good sport about it, you wouldn't happen to do any modeling do you? Because, you have that sort of model-ish look about you.."
    Her:"Actually yes... but just part time. nothing serious though. Mainly just local stuff & just to update my portfolio."
    Me:"Very cool! It's good to have ambition & do things you enjoy. You seem to have a great sense of humor too. I mean, you're laughing & smiling even after I made up some (air quotes) crappy story.."(laughing harder now)
    Her:"HAAAHAAHAHAHAA! !!"
    Me:"Well, I better let you be on your way... Besides, I actually have more responsible things to do than harass people. haha! But lets swap numbers really quick. I'd love to find out if you make it through the rest of the day with clean shoes." (wink)
    Her:"Yeah! I'll let you know how I do! hahaha!"
    **Exchange Digits**
    Me:Awesome, it was a pleasure to meet you. Have a fabulous rest of the day."
    **Insert friendly hug**
    Her:"Thanks, & you too.. see ya later."

    So, I start walking back to my car, shaking my head in partial disbelief & laughing.... I say to myself, "How in the world???.... "

    Once I realized I messed up my "script" & started laughing, I just felt more relaxed. Especially when SHE started laughing too.
    So, everything from that point on was just genuine, natural personality coming through. I didn't even think about body language or what to say next. I was simply "IN STATE".

    I definitely want to try this one again, and see if I can keep more composure, just to see if that changes the reactions/results.

    But... it did show me that sometimes, we make too big a deal about the "opener"itself, when what matters more is, what you do AFTERWARDS.



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    Default Re: So, I tried the "Dog Crap" opener....

    Keep it up m8 , you're doing great, it was smooth, the opener was good enough and the rest of the conversation was even better, you number closed in less than a minute and she will remember you because she laughed during the small conversation.

    as for the last part
    But... it did show me that sometimes, we make too big a deal about the "opener"itself, when what matters more is, what you do AFTERWARDS.
    you're right, the opener is not that important, a good opener and no game will still fail, but even a simple 'Hi' and solid game can get you digits.

    Keep them coming bro
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    Default Re: So, I tried the "Dog Crap" opener....

    Thanks man.
    I'm still laughing....

    I was totally fine until the split second before I started talking. Then I had a moment of being scared sh1tless!! (pun intended) haaha!!
    I'm not sure EVERYONE would be as receptive to that opener though, so the transition definitely has to be strong.

    It's definitely not a "casual" opener...that's for sure!!



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    Default Re: So, I tried the "Dog Crap" opener....

    **UPDATE**

    OK my friends, I just wanted to give a little follow up to this whole "crappy" situation. LOL!!

    So, picking up from where I left off.....

    Later that evening, I get a text around 6:00. (Guess who it was from??) Yep, Kate.
    (Here's our exchange)

    She said: "Hi Mark it's Kate. I made it the whole day without getting my shoes dirty. LOL"

    ME: "Heya! Should I really believe that? Or are you just trying to impress me? "

    Her: "Lol really! I'll send u a pic if I have to."

    ME: "No no... I believe you. But if it makes YOU feel better, then by all means do! "

    Her: "Haha! This has been the funniest day of my life"

    Me: "That could be taken in several ways, so I may or may not be frightened"

    Her: "It's totally good!! Promise!!"

    Me: "So, you LIKED the fake dog crap story?"

    Her: "OMG!! Stop making me laugh!! It wasn't the story but more you laughing and being so different."

    Me: "Fair enough. I'll accept that. So... send the picture already... seeing as you offered."

    Her: "I could do that. But maybe you should check it for yourself"

    Me: "Kate... Are you trying to ask me out/invite me to meet you this evening?"

    Her: "maybe"

    ME: "Ohh... Fine! I'll ask YOU Hey Kate, Meet me for a drink & bring "the shoes".

    Her: LOLOL! You got it. Where should we meet?

    Me: "Well, I'm gonna be at the Wildhorse around 9:04PM"

    Her: "LOL! OK but why 9:04?"

    Me: "Because 9:00 is too early for me. (long story, tell u some other time) "

    Her: "OMG! haha ok 9:04 it is!!


    Fast forward.....

    We meet at the Wildhorse. Her shoes WERE in fact clean!
    LOL!

    We hung out for a bit.
    I won't divulge details..... but I drove her back to her place. (because I'm considerate like that... that is the ONLY reason!!! ... )

    Now it's Sat evening & I just got back to MY place a couple hours ago...

    Last night & today, have definitely been "above average". haaaaaa!

    I should also note that Kate was specifically curious about my comment "You caught my eye".

    That seemed to be complimentary, but sparked enough curiosity & mysteriousness to cause attraction.
    I never DID say "I thought you were cute / pretty / beautiful/ gorgeous"... etc.

    So, I'm wondering if this might be one of those "magical" phrases to use when you want to express interest, but without getting all AFC on her. (Must dig deeper into this one)

    But...It was just enough to trigger an emotional response.
    (But combined with the initial shock of the "crap" opener, the complement & making her laugh... She was hooked.)

    I'm a tired man at this minute! It's been quite an adventurous 24 hours!



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    Default Re: So, I tried the "Dog Crap" opener....

    tmalonetn,

    Thanks for this post. I think I can speak for most of the guys on this forum when I say that this is truly what we all aspire to achieve in terms of results.

    Keep up the good work and continue sharing your experiences so that we can all learn and benefit!

    Regards,

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    Default Re: So, I tried the "Dog Crap" opener....

    you did great my friend , the part of the
    "Ohh... Fine! I'll ask YOU Hey Kate, Meet me for a drink & bring "the shoes".
    was still telling her to meet but you did it in an alpha male style.. without actually asking her.. but stating
    "Well, I'm gonna be at the Wildhorse around 9:04PM"
    you didn't tell her, meet me @wildhorse, you said i'll be there,so she just comes there. @9:04 part it was good

    keep it up m8
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    Default Re: So, I tried the "Dog Crap" opener....

    Yea I love every bit of this. You found an opener that works for YOU. You had fun with it, and I'm 100% with bobcat you did it alpha

    Seriously keep approaching. If I could burst out laughing on every "failed" approach, there would be no failed approaches!

    This is gold. Mad props
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    Default Re: So, I tried the "Dog Crap" opener....

    Well, so far it's worked out just fine... LOL!

    I've tried it once, and just happened to pull it all together.
    I don't know if I'd be able to repeat the atmosphere like I created the first time.....
    Something about the genuine nervousness & resulting laughter is what sold it I think.

    I still do want to try it again.... but I think the magic of that first time might be hard to match.
    LOL!


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    Default Re: So, I tried the "Dog Crap" opener....

    My foot has been pressing hard on the gas for some time now, and I've made noticeable strides in my text game. This is the level I'm tryna reach and/or surpass. Great post man!

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    Default Re: So, I tried the "Dog Crap" opener....

    Thanks man.
    I wrote this post about 3-4 months after first discovering the PUA community. (And I never have tried this again... might have to now!)

    But the whole idea came up because I started to realize that "The Opener" doesn't matter at all, as far as what you say. It's How you are that matters.

    So many guys worry about what they're going to say to a girl. Like a line is going make all the difference. That's not the case at all.

    You can open a girl without saying a word. You can open a girl with "dog crap"... it doesn't matter.

    But I definitely had a great experience with this one.



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