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Thread: Help with Jealous Girlfriend Opener

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    Default Help with Jealous Girlfriend Opener

    OK so here is the deal, sometimes its easier said then done but when i approach woman(anxiety) i use the " My buddy's girlfriend found a shoebox under his bed and inside was bunch of old pictures of him and his ex gf and old love letters from hs. Do you think its a big deal?'' opener. i feel more confident- just a little bit. What should i do next? I don't want to ask questions over and over as if shes on a interview

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    Creating conversation with smooth transition. Transition from your opener to something that relates and transition from that to something else that relates and it creates an endless loop of convo.

    ME: "Did you see that girl with the crazy hair"
    HB/Set: "Oh my god yeah"
    ME: "What do you think? You think her girlfriends should have told her something?"
    HB/Set: [BLAHBLAHBLAH]
    ME: "You know what this remind me of? When someone gets toilet paper stuck to their shoe? [Laughs] and everyone including their friends point and stare"
    HB/Set: [BLAHBLAHBLAH] [Laughs]
    ME: "I think you got toilet paper stuck under your shoe (points at target)"
    ME: [Laughs]
    HB/Set: [BLAHBLAHBLAH] [Laughs]
    ME: "Whats your name?"
    HB/Set: "My name is yadah yadah"
    ME: "My name is topgun"



    Quote Originally Posted by daniel3:16 View Post
    Ok so here is the deal, sometimes its easier said then done but when i apporach woman(anxiety) i use the " My buddys girlfriend found a shoebox under his bed and inside was bunch of old pictures of him and his ex gf and old love letters from hs. Do you think its a big deal?'' opener. i feel more confident- just a little bit. What should i do next? I dont want to ask questions over and over as if shes on a interview
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    Default Re: Help

    Hey Daniel3:16,

    What you're experiencing is warm-ups - getting out of Approach Anxiety by already knowing what you're gonna say - you don't have to try and think of something - its a solid technique. Once you're warmed up and used to approaching you become calmer and can be more strategic. I usually warm up with ironically cheesy pick-up lines - sometimes the chick responds positively, other times a new set will give me props for it.

    I'd look into other openers tho - since that one asks for her advice right off the bat it raises her relative value - you want to raise yours in the first few minutes of opening, then once she's earned it you can acknowledge her value.

    I'd say start here with PUA Openers

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    i guess what my problem is that i can think of a good opener that can suit me. The scenario i just described actually happend at the gym. Your version is good as well. However i dont think that opener would be the best one if im at the gym haha

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    I prefer situational openers, like topgun suggested, rather than canned lines. I usually just directly introduce myself and then start up conversations about anything and everything. Dont worry about asking lots of questions, you eventually have to but whats important is you ask questions that lead somewhere and that you gain experience in being able to improvise. Practice makes perfect so just talk to as many women as you can.

    I'd also suggest chatting to girls using the time constraint technique 'hey Ive only got a minute but I want to get your opinion on something' or 'hey Ive only got a minute but I had to come over and say hi to you because you seem fun and interesting' or talk to girls with no Number Close goal in mind. Go up to a bunch of girls or a girl, talk to her for a while and right when they are enjoying it, say goodbye and walk away. Often the girl will chase you because she was all flattered and ego'd out expecting you to number close. It's a mild neg hit...you liked them enough to talk to them but not number close or take it further. The girl may end up thinking 'why? Is there something wrong with me? Bastard...well Im going to go chase him now, Im intrigued'. Some girls chat more than others and its not always linked to how good looking they are so you just have to get out there and practice talking to lots of women and move on rapidly from girls who are dull or dont want to chat - or move on from clubs that have a bad conversation vibe. Set and setting. I mean they are just people, they are not great white sharks.

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    Default Re: Help with Jealous Girlfriend Opener

    Thank you so much! Actually thats not entirelly true.. if girls dont like you they will eat you alive like a shark hahah. As mystery one said'' Attraction isnt a choice''. Arent they gonna feel awkard as if they are on an interview?

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    I agree with white dragon and the others.

    At the gym? Well ...

    ME: "I havent seen you here before are you new?"
    HB: "I have been here since" / "Yeah I am new"
    ME: "Cool, my name is topgun you?"
    HB: "HB"
    ME: "Do you normally workout intensely? Or are you a pretty relaxed person?"
    HB: "BLAHBLAHBLAH"
    ME: "Yeah I can see that. [Laughs] I do not want to hold you up but let me ask a you a question?"
    HB: "Sure"
    ME: "[not paying attention pretending to get back working out but still maintaining eye contact] Check this out, well I read in a recent gym magazine that did a poll on gyms and dating and that people who are gym pandas like myself and you [Laughs and pause] will have a hard time getting a date due to our dedication to the gym do you think its true?
    HB: BLAHBLAHBLAH


    That opens up an emotional convo about relationships and you can even ask her what types of guys she dates and neg her about maybe dating a juice head. Like the others say remember to make a timed convo and walk away. Places like gyms and so forth are places that you will see someone on a regular basis so you dont have to invest too much time, just slowly chip away at her like you are carving out stone art because if she goes to the gym regularly you will more than likely see her again. Also, women go to the gym for a peace of mind but if the right guy comes along and nicely ask them out they might say yes. I read this in a gym magazine and most of the girls I asked at my gym said its true.


    Quote Originally Posted by daniel3:16 View Post
    i guess what my problem is that i can think of a good opener that can suit me. The scenario i just described actually happend at the gym. Your version is good as well. However i dont think that opener would be the best one if im at the gym haha
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    Default Re: Help with Jealous Girlfriend Opener

    lol would any girl buy into that?

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    Default Re: Help with Jealous Girlfriend Opener

    Quote Originally Posted by daniel3:16 View Post
    Arent they gonna feel awkard as if they are on an interview?
    Only if you conduct it like an interview. It's up to your own charm, charisma and experience in talking to women and what you do with their answers. Just have fun and get them engaged. Always remember women are also engineering the situation...the are not all mute nor are most women the most exciting conversationalists themselves. If a women has already seen you and likes you she probably wont care what you say so also take steps to be noticed...and wear nice shoes.

    Take the question of 'what do you do for a living' for example - boring question but its how you respond:
    'Oh you're a teacher? Will you punish me if I am a bad boy tonight?'
    'Oh you are a nurse? can I play Doctor?'
    'Oh you are a lawyer? Bye bye...ha no just kidding, guess you can afford to buy me a drink then '
    'Oh you are a marine biologist? Ever wear a bikini to work?'
    'Oh you are a beauty technician? I guess that's why you have so much make up on'
    Yeah corny I know but if you are playful and sharp you can get away with it.

    Or just being a fun guy having a blast:
    'Lets have a toast to friday!! Yay!'
    'Lets toast to...ME!'
    'what is that you are a drinking it looks totally weird'
    'Hey you want to take a picture together? (take photo) We make a good couple don't you think?'
    or 'hey can you take a photo of me and my friends together? (she takes photo) 'thanks...oh nice shot...hey you want to take one with me too? what's your name miss photographer?'
    'The funniest thing happened today at work...guy was trying to put some books and reports on a a shelf and a pot plant with lots of water fell down all over him poor guy...he was drenched with water and soil...but you know what? Thats the second time he's done it this week!!'

    Or compliment or neg them on fashion - the females archilles heel:
    'I hate your dress' (sarcasm)
    'You dress the best out of all your friends you know '
    'black skirt, white shoes...hmmmm...left your place in a hurry tonight huh?'
    'You are wearing an almost identical outfit to your friend'

    Try avoid subjects like politics, science fiction, sport. Its really about your confidence and how at ease you are in yourself. Keep talking to as many women as you can and you will soon learn what they like to talk about and you will be more relaxed around them. Talk to the hardest best looking girl you can as training. Talk to a much younger girl for training. Talk to an older lady for training. Talk to the ugliest girl you can for training. Talk to a female cop. Talk to someone from another country who can't speak your language. Talk to other guys. Talk to a biker. Talk to a nerd. Now go and talk to the girl next door you really like sitting over there.


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