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Thread: Opener Conundrum - do canned openers work?

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    Default Opener Conundrum - do canned openers work?

    I believe openers should be natural, based on observation. I can't buy into the concept of canned openers. I do not want to approach a girl and open with some random question that I got from some existing pool of openers that I don't really care about the answer too.

    At the same time, I have always been shy and had difficulty with small talk and it is my belief that natural openers are essentially "canned" openers that one has developed through years of life experience and the practice of engaging people. Natural openers are "natural" yet "canned".

    So, if one practices canned openers over and over, I guess they eventually become natural openers, based on the idea that they are ingrained and can be adapted to the situation.

    For example, I used to feel weird and uncomfortable saying "How you doing?" to people. It was a premade line that I though was silly. But eventually, I just started saying it, and now it is my "natural" way of greeting people and I don't even think about it.

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    Default Re: Opener Conundrum

    I suggest you look at all canned PUA material the same way i do: They're training wheels to use until you gain more confidence and start rolling out with your own material.

    And of course, anyone that has used a canned opened can testify that you need practice to make it sound natural, otherwise you've blown your set.

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    Default Re: Opener Conundrum

    That's a good way to think about it.

    I think that for an opener to be truly effective, it must be genuine and it must vibe with the girl's reality at that moment. If she's walking and thinking about which store she wants to buy clothes in, and suddenly you're like "Hey, who cheats more..." it throws things off and you essentially have to dig yourself out of a hole to develop attraction because you're not connecting with her thoughts and emotions of that moment.

    I think canned openers are good training wheels only to carry you through psychological barriers by forcing you to say stuff that you are uncomfortable with, but in the long run you need to be comfortable with your own words and observant enough to make comments that will create immediate connection.

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    Default Re: Opener Conundrum

    I think most of us put too much focus on what an opener really is. It's not a "magic pick-up line" to instantly make her swoon...

    It's just something to get her attention long enough to start a conversation.

    I've used a couple ridiculous "openers" (one being the "Dog Crap Opener") And a friend of mine used an idea I had, that was completely random & equally ridiculous ("I Like Ducks")

    Both of them were non-traditional to say the least.
    BUT... they accomplished the task at hand.

    I know I STILL catch myself over-thinking what to say a lot of times. But when I'm just "in the mood" & feeling goofy / silly, I just wing it & it works better than anything else. (For ME anyway)


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