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    Default LOUD non dance bar

    Bars/clubs (typically of the college variety) that are incredibly loud with no dance floor:


    I am something of a conversational wizard. My voice is very deep and warm, and I'm getting better with body language and escalation.

    I'm looking to really start my out-of-social-circle (no coworkers, no friends of friends, no classmates, etc) game at bars (sans dance floor) at my local university. Approach Anxiety is not my issue here, so much as conceptualizing how to approach is. If a bar has really loud music, do I just walk up to a sitting/standing set and project as loudly as possible? What if the bar is really dark with loud music? Would texting on my phone and showing the target what I'm saying work as a fun opener? I'm not scared to try anything, I would just like some feedback on reliable models to try.

    Sidebar, for girls walking on the sidewalk outside of these bars/clubs on a Thursday-Saturday night, would Krauser's daygame model be ideal?


    Any help is always appreciated.

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    Default Re: LOUD non dance bar

    just about any opener will work fine so long as you appraoch at an angle (in front of her of course) and project your voice enough that she can hear you but not loud enough to seem try hard. also with loud music you can tell her its bothering your ears and you want to get away from it (this is a great way to get her isolated to a place more conductive to convorsation) also it is very important to be a good listener and not be constantly asking what she said!

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    Default Re: LOUD non dance bar

    To that I would say, in a 4 set, for example, loud, crowded, (in some cases) dark bar, would it be ideal to approach the target directly without focusing too much on the group, until the group decides to to get involved?


    Hopefully I'll get to Field Test this Thursday, but definitely will by Friday.

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    Default Re: LOUD non dance bar

    Women who are in sets makes group decisions. There are rare occasions when women just ignore their set and do their own thing unless she is the leader of her set. You need to entertain the set or get some other guys/wings to help you out if its tough. The reason you need to entertain the set is because you need to build rapport / trust with the set so you can take the target to another quiet area of the bar (Isolation).

    Quote Originally Posted by W.Axl.Rose View Post
    To that I would say, in a 4 set, for example, loud, crowded, (in some cases) dark bar, would it be ideal to approach the target directly without focusing too much on the group, until the group decides to to get involved?


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    Default Re: LOUD non dance bar

    be sure to approach the set and not the target, i recomend smiling at the set while the target is looking your direction and then approaching one of her friends in the set, if done right this will confuse the heck out of her. she'll be thinkin "was he smiling at me or my friend he's talking to" be entertaining like topgunningit said but be carefull not to become a tryhard "dancing monkey"

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    Default Re: LOUD non dance bar

    Hey guys, i have somewhat the same question, last week i went to this bar/club that was very loud and almost everyone was sitting down.

    The thing is, its somewhat hard to open the whole set without shouting at them, would this be appropriate?

    Me and my wing opened up around 5 girls in set individually and got mixed results. We number closed twice, one set left, the other was boring and i got blown out of one set by the friends on a girl that was super into me, she actually tried to block the obstacles herself but couldn't do it haha.

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    Default Re: LOUD non dance bar

    jtores2 1 with the girl who was really into you, you should have isolated her and got her number if the situation allowed, you will always get mixed results because no two girls are the same. some respond better than others and you have to live with that, you might have been able to use your wing to hold the groups attention while you took her to some place private where you could have n or k closed her i call this my disappearing act because they almost never realize what happened till you come back to the group, they'll just ask you wear you went and you can make up an excuse, thats what i would've done

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    Default Re: LOUD non dance bar

    Ahh i think you're right bro, it was kinda hard though because it was like a mixed 8 set and i only had my wing, i was done with my opener and halfway through some gambit when the mother hawk and her squad came up to retrieve their own. The target told them to give her a minute but the mother hawk would not listen, she took her in her claws and pulled her back in.

    After that i waited 10 minutes, came back in, negged her and ejected. After that my wing told me she took like 10 glances at us. I maybe could've N closed or isolated but.. you know alcohol haha, it was a very successful night anyways.

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    Default Re: LOUD non dance bar

    hey better luck next time at least you learned from it and know what to do next time.


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