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    jtorres2_1 is offline PUA in Training
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    Default Mother and Daughter approach

    Hey guys, any kind of insight on this kind of approach? I've been thinking alot about it, let me tell the backstory for any of you guys that are interested.

    Me and a couple of my friends went out on Wednesday night to a local bar, it was pretty much dead except for a couple in a corner and a two set of a young looking 7 and a much older women who looked like her mother.

    One of my friends is from out of town and had brought a girl along. I was telling him earlier in the day about PUA stuff and how it was great, he in turn used the worst time ever to call me on it, of course what are friends for if not that?

    He was loudly telling me how it was all bullshit, i had terrible game and i couldn't sarge anyone. He was saying he wanted to see me step into action and if i picked up the girl on the counter, he was paying the whole bill.

    Of course i wanted to shut him the hell up, save some money and sarge a girl, all at the same time. However i just stood there for 20 minutes thinking about it and i just couldn't come up for a game plan for a Mother/Daughter sarge...

    And some months have passed and i still can't think of much really, should you open both with something somewhat neutral? If so with what? Will the mother get pissed that i'm trying to pick up her daughter? Should i have my friend wing the mother and try to Disarm her? Would the girl feel weird about her mom being there? Could i N or K close her?

    Help me out guys

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    Default Re: Mother and Daughter approach

    This probably isnt ths best way to approach it lol but i can see it working. If you had a pen and piece of paper near by i would have gone up and said i was doing a study/survey on mothers and their daughters for school or to win an ipad or some shit and at the end said okay now i need both (so they dont seem suspicious) of your e-mail addresses and phone numbers to follow up on the prize or for reference on the project. Then afterwards tell the girl that you were so interested that you had to come up with the whole thing, shed be really flattered (or creeped out..haha) i think it would work if you built enough comfort throughout the conversation, either way you would have won the bet n had some free booze thats all i can think of on the top of my head.

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    jtorres2_1 is offline PUA in Training
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    Default Re: Mother and Daughter approach

    Haha nice idea man, i don't see it working though. Girls usually don't like the "trick" pickup.

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    Default Re: Mother and Daughter approach

    Hmmm How about walking up and saying:"Excuse me, I'd like to buy you and your sister a drink." I know as a pua you're not allowed to buy drinks but It would get a good laugh. After you've done that tell them you'll only buy drinks if they win at the "5 question game". Lol I dunno if that's any good, I'm sure the more the more experienced guys have something better.

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    Default Re: Mother and Daughter approach

    well first mistake you waited 20minutes.. the more you wait the worse it gets..

    secondly, being nice (looking as a gentleman, and not a player) in front of the mother will win her approval and allow you to Isolate her for a few minutes (only a few metres away) so she would still check on her daughter. When you isolated her, use your game well and efficiently, because most probably her mom, won't leave her with you for a lot of time

    hope i helped ya
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    Default Re: Mother and Daughter approach

    I had the same issue on a trip to Vegas. I was in the hotel lobby bar, it was late, and this girls comes in with a bunch of people. Probably an HB8. It looked like the older people were like moms and dads, as there was some other, what appeared to be daughters. I needed a new beer so I walked up to the bar and ordered it. I had all of these free drink tickets, but you had to sign each one before you got your drink. Really stupid process. Like buying a beer ticket in one line and getting the actual beer from another. But I digress.

    This girl was standing right next to me, and I was drunk so i go on about how " i don't have to sign my name, I could draw you a picture" to the bartender. So I start to draw a bad picture of Obama with massive ears and turn to her and say "look, it's your president" (I'm not from the US). She laughs and gives me a look.

    I go back to my friends and after the beer we take off. It's gotta be 3am at this point. As we're leaving I hear the HB8 say to her friend/sister/cousin whatever "aww they're leaving". And in my head I think "fark. are you kidding me? you're with your mom and dad, there is no way I can make this happen!" I had also just got into PU, and I was drunk, so I probably would have gotten blown out by her parents haha. Anyway, If you can think of a solid way to game that, I'm all ears.

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    Default Re: Mother and Daughter approach

    After thinking about it some i think the best way is to approach it like a mixed set, go in, open neutrally and then pop the "so how do you guys know each other?". Maybe shes just her really older cousin or co worker that looks alot like her... haha.

    I'm stuck abit on the opener, i know this is probably the most unimportant part but, whats a decent opener that neutral enough for both and can make a transition? Also so many of the social dynamics are different, cocky funny or negs are not really possible i guess.

    Maybe i could've gone up to the girls side and just open her individually, even though there's a pretty high chance of getting myself blown out.

    Gahh, so many questions


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