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    Default Preparing for the hardest pickup of my life, shes a playboy model

    Ive thought this through A LOT as it would be my hardest pickup ever.

    What I'm trying to do: The main goal is obviously to f-close her but i want to at least k and # close.

    Target: Signed for playboy, been in news papers, magazines and promotional things for club, i don't want to say her name but i will if i actually get with her

    Background info: The pick up will be in a club for sure,which isn't the strongest location for my game, i prefer partys followed by bars. It will probably be an event and most likely in Toronto. If it is in Toronto, i will be staying in a hotel. If not in Toronto then my house as I will be in a suburb of Toronto (where i live)

    Who she will be with: She will deffinently be with this club promoter (HB9), we've talked before and ive partied at her house but we no long talk at all, shes quite the bitch. She will probably (%75) be with this HB8, we had a thing together in high school (2yrs ago) we liked each other and would have dated but shes saving her self for marriage and it just never worked out..this girl would be the main problem, i think shes crazy, possibly a lesbian (i seriously think this), and i banged both of her ex best friends (HB8 and HB7) she probably knows and doesn't like me very much. They might also be with this 5 i know nothing about.

    Who ill be with: Best scenario ill be with my best wing that could get the club promoter while distracting the HB8 and the 5.
    Worst scenario: ill be with my other 2 buddys that just arent the best wings. Up side to this buddy1 use to be good friends with HB8. Down side buddy2 use to bbm the target a lot till she got big n deleted him haha, they never hung out and he could never get her the way he acts.

    Ive only number closed anyone higher then an HB8.5 (still working on 2 HB9s and an HB10) so my game on really attractive girls isn't the best but not bad. Even though, i don't think this even compares to gaming a playboy model? Finding out where they'll be and when wont be a problem (thanks facebook aha), im not a stalker i swear..who shell be with is going to be one or all of the above, probably no one else, except i have no way of knowing if any of they will bring a guy, also all the girls except the target may be on mdma. I could be with one or all three of the above, i could also get girls to come out with me. I don't know much about the target but i could easily build a bit of a connection as we have the exact same birthday (its just meant to be!), she probably has a massive ego as every idiot AFC just blows it up by commenting on her fb pics, among other thing. But she doesnt seem like a bitch from what i can see and heard from buddy2.
    I dont really have a set day for this to go cause its not like a have a time limit or anything. All thought i can see it happening a month or 2 from now.
    What would the strategy be for picking up such a high value target?
    I'm open to any and all advice or ideas as simple or complex they might be, I'm gonna need help on this one guys

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    Default Re: Preparing for the hardest pickup of my life, shes a playboy model

    Lolol I feel like this is Ocean's 11 and you're trying to pull off a heist.

    (P.s. What started as a few notes has turned into like a whole essay of what my game plan would be if I were in your shoes lol. Hope it helps, and I hope more PUAs comment to fill in any of my errors - I'm sure I've made a few)

    But really your game is going to have to be tight on this one - perfect open, perfect A1,A2,A3,C1... once you get to C1 though you should be relatively in the clear (I say relatively as in you just have to have 90% perfect game, instead of 101% perfect).
    You're challenging yourself in just about the biggest way possible, I respect that a lot, I love a good challenge

    Here's my initial thoughts:

    The Target:

    You say she's just been signed to a hired-gun deal? That means her self-value is going to be orbitally high in the excitement of all the attention. Normally, given her credentials, a lot of guys would give her the "HB11" but tonight (assuming this is her party - yes??) she's going to feel like an HB12.

    Frame and Inner Game

    Don't think about these. If you think about them you'll over-think them. Don't think, just DO!

    Opener
    Don't open her directly.
    (A) have your wing open her, then talk to him and ignore her until you "notice" something you can neg her about.
    (B) use your mutual acquaintance as a passive pivot - whether it's the promoter or your high school friend - get the pawn talking to the target, then engage the pawn, ignoring the target until you notice a potential neg.
    (C) recruit an active pivot in-field - this is a hail marry pass and I wouldn't recommend it. But same as the wing or the pawn, engage your accomplice, then notice a neg.
    *Remember her attention will be all over the place so don't miss a beat - engage your cohort and ignore the target for like 5-7 seconds, then notice her. Much longer and she'll be somewhere else.
    Negging
    Don't hit her with negs - have a conversation that is nothing but negs. The difference is hitting her with negs seems intentional while a conversation where everything you say is a neg makes it seems like that's just who you are - a higher-value guy

    See this about winging, though I'm not sure if it will help much in this specific situation

    A1 hook
    To get her hooked be memorable. Peacock (I'm talking to rival Mystery) or reference something that she looooves or pretent to argue intensly in Serbian with your wing or call her mother a cow - whatever it takes, get her interested with a positive (or even neutral) emotion and she'll be hooked.

    A2 dhv
    I'd say focus on Attraction Switches, The Fleetingness of the Moment (watch some of Mystery's in-field stuff on youtube), as well as your indifference to beauty - and even dislike for models - use catstring theory (mix IOIs + IOD mix DHV + NEG + Kino mix Disqualifiers + Curiosity)

    A3 Qualification
    Reward her ONLY when she accepts your dominant frame and when she qualifies herself based on things you have already revealed as your qualifiers

    C1 Comfort in Isolation
    Once she starts qualifying herself, use isolation as another qualifier - this will get you isolated but will extend A3 and build more attraction.
    As for content - if it was me I'd use a lot of cold reads - but play to your game, build comfort the way you do. Just stimulate her emotions.

    C2 Secondary Location
    Afterparty? Get her isolated fast (but don't be try-hard) have her emotionally stimulated to the point that SHE isolated you fast. Once you're out of "public" assume it is C3

    C3 Comfort at the Sex Location
    You're probably wondering why I haven't mentioned kino. Because you've been running kino since A1 because you're just a guy who talks with his hands (see LoveDrops Kino Escalation materials). Don't over do it on the comfort at the sex location, just make a move. As long as you've stimulated her emotionally enough and run enough kino up until now, it should just fall into place.

    S1 Foreplay
    Do it good. Give her just enough to make her want more.

    S2 LMR
    This is actually my biggest sticking point, so I can't give much advice on it.

    S3 Sex
    Have a condom in your wallet, or hidden in a pack of gum, or in a little wallet-looking memory card case. Safety first
    DTF HB's omw 2 LTR

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    Default Re: Preparing for the hardest pickup of my life, shes a playboy model

    I love it, ocean's 11 pua's.

    2 things I should mention. While you should definitely be bringing her down from orbit throughout the conversation, don't rain on her parade. This is her party, she's there to feel good about being a playmate. Bringing her down too hard will make her associate you with negativity. You want her to be having fun with you above all else. If you can't accomplish that, she'll seek it elsewhere.

    Second, she's going to be a playmate, baring it all before the camera. Escalation should not only be easy, but also quick. Be prepared for that, don't let it throw you off if the conversation escalates earlier than expected, as it probably will. And when it does, run with it. Making her comfortable with the fact that she's going to be posing nude will build rapport like you wouldn't believe.

    Good luck dude, I salute the balls it takes to even consider something like this.

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    Default Re: Preparing for the hardest pickup of my life, shes a playboy model

    Has this gone down yet? How did it go?
    DTF HB's omw 2 LTR

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    Default Re: Preparing for the hardest pickup of my life, shes a playboy model

    Autismus

    You always impress me

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    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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    Default Re: Preparing for the hardest pickup of my life, shes a playboy model

    this better have a story to it. i dont care if its bad we all want to hear this one lol
    im on a different level

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    Default Re: Preparing for the hardest pickup of my life, shes a playboy model

    Quote Originally Posted by Autismus View Post
    Has this gone down yet? How did it go?
    The "heist" hasn't gone down yet haha As i said i dont really have a set date as i really cant until a shorter notice, probably a week. But im deffinently gonna try and pull this off. But no it wont be her party, it will most likely just be a club event. Thanks for the post though it will serve as a great guideline for sure. Ill keep you guys updated closer to the time before the night!

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    Default Re: Preparing for the hardest pickup of my life, shes a playboy model

    Wow... i also want to hear if u pull it off. Sounds like fun!

    U might want to lookup how to game strippers also. Similar type of girl as far as high value.

    And i know its going to be super difficult but HAVE FUN. Your going to have ALOT of work to do but remember the outcome doesn't matter. Your first goal is that u have a good time. Don't cling... dance with other girls ... leave her with your wing on occasion...dont drink too much (if at all).

    This is all my opinion and i have never gamed a playboy model. Hope u get her done lol!
    Between men and women there is no friendship possible. There is passion, enmity, worship, love, but no friendship.
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    Default Re: Preparing for the hardest pickup of my life, shes a playboy model

    btw...does someone have a link/thread for gaming strippers? -Flynn

    PS - Rooting for you Petro

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    Default Re: Preparing for the hardest pickup of my life, shes a playboy model

    for anyone thats been waiting for me to post what happened is sadly going to have to wait, she moved to mexico for 6 months or something...


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