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    Default When should I kino? after she shows IOI?

    I've hear some PUAs say that you should touch a girl 10 seconds after you meet her. (Not sure if is true)
    What should you after she shows you ioi?
    Thanks you for all the answer there very helpful, thank you

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    Default Re: When should I kino? after she shows IOI?

    That rule is just a rule of thumb. You can touch her whenever you feel is right, but sooner is better because that little first touch is the first step to building rapport.

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    Default Re: When should I kino? after she shows IOI?

    I personally touch immediately & constantly.

    Whether it's a polite handshake, playfully smacking her arm, leg, back of the head, lightly hip-checking her, etc... or touching her shoulder, forearm, friendly hug, etc... I initiate physical contact right from the start.

    Doing that WHILE you build attraction, can result in "Rapid Escalation".

    If she's resistant & doesn't respond well, or things just aren't happening, you don't have to waste a bunch of time & can move on to other prospects.


    But I agree with the idea of initiating touch as soon as you meet her.
    Start light & friendly.... then gradually increase the contact to a more "intimate" type of touch.

    Like I said, that's MY personal style & it works well for me. Other guys may not be as comfortable doing that & their body language will express it. (Which usually ends in less successful results.)

    You definitely have to be confident & not really think about it.
    Just "do it" like it's a natural part of your personality, & the girl won't question it or find it creepy.


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    Default Re: When should I kino? after she shows IOI?

    Yup yup. Right from the get-go.
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    Default Re: When should I kino? after she shows IOI?

    This is where the handshake or the High 5 come in. When you first get chatting, you will get each other's names, you then shake hands/high 5 and the Kino begins.

    Plus there's the alternative that if she's fun you can talk about having a secret handshake and that gives you prolonged kino.

    But yup, get it in nice and early! Otherwise it is more likely to seem strange later when you have avoided it for so long.

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    Default Re: When should I kino? after she shows IOI?

    As has been said, I always start Kino right away. One thing to do is (this only works in groups) to grab the target's elbow and pull her to the side a little, making room for you to step in with your back to her (neg), and start running your game. Keep escalating the kino from there, and do it quickly. Touch her shoulder. Act like you can't hear her over the music and put your hand on the small of her back with a little pressure, prompting her to lean in and speak into your ear (compliance test).

    Kino to me is the most important aspect of PU as it's what escalates the sexual tension. So I always get at it fast and escalate quickly. Best of luck to you!

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    Default Re: When should I kino? after she shows IOI?

    I incorporate a cool little trick that allows me to touch her hands for an extended amount of time. It also removes the potential shield that she might have.

    I'm originally from Michigan; You know, the state shaped like a "mitten". So, when the question comes up about where I'm from I'll tell her.
    Then, I'll say, "OK, gimme your left hand".

    I then spend about 30 seconds holding her hand & running my index finger over different places, as I point out the "location" of several cities in Michigan.

    I'll say, "Here's where Detroit is.... right here is the capital of Michigan, Lansing..... over here we have Kalamazoo & Grand Rapids.... Now up here is the tip, where the Mackinaw Bridge stretches across Lake Michigan, & connects to Michigan's Upper Peninsula... but right here, at the tip of your ring finger is where I was born & grew up, in Petoskey."

    So, by using that little interactive map, it allows me to make the explanation FUN for her, as well as make her comfortable with me touching her.



    Guys in Florida can do this trick too.... but you should probably wait until you have her back at your place!!
    LOL!!!



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    Default Re: When should I kino? after she shows IOI?

    I make an observation about her or tell her 'i knew that' when she gives info about herself. If you have shaken hands (in the very least, u should always shake hands when she tells u her name), you can tell her 'i knew that when we shook hands.' She will ask how did u know ?

    At this point grab her hand with both your hands, look her in the eye. Start massaging her hand while saying, 'i could feel it here' then rub on one spot for a second or two.

    What you say after depends on what she told u. If she is artsy or paints, her hands will feel old or craggy... just say she has strength in her fingers. If she is a mom, you will feel slight callasus... mom's have callasus but they are very slight because mom hands are usually in water all day (bathing kid, preparing food, laundry etc)... tell her she has femmanine hands but they have a little more strength than normal... if she never worked a day in her life, she will have soft hands... no tough skin or joints, like a child's hand.

    You might also tease her by calling her out on a lie. If she says she works out, but her hands are velvet soft ... tell her i dont know... (grab hand) ... your hands feel like that of a pampered little princess. Then she might qualify herself by insisting she works out. Simply continue by asking how she keeps her skin soft (warning: that may keep her talking for like an hour LOL).

    Don't hold her hand forever though. There's a fine line between Kino and CLINGY.
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