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    Default Guide to DHV - Autismus Conversationalist Trilogy (Eine)

    Smal-talk, chit chat, really conversation of any type is - shall we say - not in my nature. I've been studying the art of conversation for many years, and sonce I see a lot of posts here asking about topics related to "Talking" I'd like to give some of my experience with a few factors in the process of "talking a girl out of her pants"


    This first post relates to dhv routines and attraction switches


    DHV


    What's a DHV Routine? - Something that sounds awesome right? Wrong. Or at least not entirely. Remember your goal: relatively higher value (raising yours DHV / lowering hers Neg/DSQ) This post focuses on DHV. So the question becomes what does a woman value?


    Think about Sun Tzu's Art of War: "No season is the best time to attack and no terrain is ideal. Everything has it's strength and it's weakness." ...or something like that. Point is: what is valued by one girl in one scenario will not necessarily be valued by another. A DHV story about sailing in the hamptons will hook a sorrority girl but will blow out a hippie chick / talking about a film you're making will interest a hipster girl and bore a latina. Of course these are stereo-types, but you get the idea. The rule of thumb for me is: she will value you if she's attracted to you, and she's attracted to you if you can flip her switches.



    Attraction Switches


    These are the primal animal things that any female social mammal will value:

    (CToL) Caretaker of loved ones - you are discriminatory in who you let into your life (qualifying) and those who are in your life are cared for by you.

    (LoM) Leader of men - men look up to you / seek your advice

    (PbF) Preselection by Females - females desire you (even if they aren't up to your standards)

    (SeP) Socio-economic Proof - (usually called social proof) this is just showing that you are with "the in-crowd". In high school that's the "cool kids". In college it's less cut and dry but still is usually the jocks OR the student gov OR the Frats, and there is even an "in-crowd" within each of those. After college, being part of the "in-crowd" simply means you are part of her world: whether that's Yacht Club, Redneck, Music Scene, Corporate America, whatever. Social proof is showing that you are part of her social structure - it does not mean popularity (common misconception).

    *(AtE) Ability to Emote - this one is not as visceral as the others - it is more unique to sentient beings - basically this is showing her that in addition to the animal appeal you have generated with the first four switches, you are more than an animal because you can think and feel and think about how you feel and most of all: talk about it.



    Special Skills and Interests - this is not an attraction-switch, but it is an interest-switch. Having rare or exotic skills will not necessarily make her "attracted" to you in the sexual or romantic sense, but it will get non-sexual IOI's (eye contact, initiating conversation) even if there are no IOA (indicatiors of attraction: hair-flick, neck touch, bedroom eyes, etc). This is good for hooking, and for getting her to invest, but if your DHV relies entirely on skills then you'll get in the FZ. (Tho bear in mind that some specific skills can identify you with specific social groups - see socio-economic proof).




    Framing your life to DHV and flip Attraction Switches


    Let's say you open a set and she asks what you're up to today, you tell her you went shopping at some fancy store, she's like "cool, I've been there" ... *crickets.
    What happened!?! you wonder, I said I shop at Le petit fancieshop! Isn't that a DHV? Yes and no. Yes, it can identify you as a member of her social group (if she's in that group); but No, it won't generate enough attraction to raise your value much higher than every other guy at that store - and she has no reason to talk to them either.


    Let's say it goes differently: open a set, she asks what you're up to today, you tell her you went shopping at some fancy store because it's your cousins' anniversary next month and you really like to get a gift that SPEAKS to you (CoL). But you didn't find anything you liked, you don't usually shop at this particular store (deniability in case this store disqualifies you from her social group - SeP) but your best friend Jennifer recommended it (PbF). You assure her you're not her gay, having a girl bff, she's just a girl that you used to date before one of you had to move and, after talking about it, you decided to transition to being friends (AtE). So anyway, you ask her what she's up to, this time she answers, she's contributing to the convo because she sees value in you for no other reason than that she feels attracted - and she doesn't know why.
    But you know why. You know that by dominating the conversation early you tirggered her visceral attraction switches.


    Remember the difference is in the details. Simply answering a question will get you nowhere. Give the details specifying why you did it, how you did it, why you chose that method, with or for whom you did whatever it is you did, where you usually did whatever and why you changed to a new location, as well as when the last time you did it was, who you were with, why you were with the... the details can be added ad infinitum and each detail should be framed to stimulate her attraction.



    Summary:

    Answer her questions -> the convo will fizzle.
    Give more DHV details -> the convo will last to build attraction as long as you like (srsly details and tangents can last for hours or days between good conversationalists).
    Keep detail Threads open and unresolved -> and she will be chasing you - but that's part II of the Autismus Conversationalist Trilogy


    I'll post soon my next thread about Stacking from openers / between multiple conversational threads. That's part II!
    DTF HB's omw 2 LTR

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    Default Re: Guide to DHV - Autismus Conversationalist Trilogy (Eine)

    Autismus my man looks like someone new is going to get the top reps really soon :P. Lots of great posts, keep it up!
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    Default Re: Guide to DHV - Autismus Conversationalist Trilogy (Eine)

    i'm lovin this, it reminds me of the n-close i got earlier today, i did some dhv's that i didn't realize were dhv's like being a member of a frat. also another form of the preselection switch is friends, if you talk about things you did with your friends it shows her that you are cool to hang out with

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    Default Re: Guide to DHV - Autismus Conversationalist Trilogy (Eine)

    good ish autismus i enjoy reading your posts

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    Default Re: Guide to DHV - Autismus Conversationalist Trilogy (Eine)

    great guide for newbie, thank you!

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    Default Re: Guide to DHV - Autismus Conversationalist Trilogy (Eine)

    I feel inspired. Alright Autismus, your going to be my wingman in spirit this afternoon. I'm going to pick up my balls, reapproach the cute girl in my English class, open , transition, and hopefully close.

    Today I will take advantage of the opportunities presented to me.

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    Default Re: Guide to DHV - Autismus Conversationalist Trilogy (Eine)

    Will do AmberShades! I'll try and will her panties drop for ya! ;D
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    Default Re: Guide to DHV - Autismus Conversationalist Trilogy (Eine)

    This is solid autismus, I'm gonna save this to link when people ask how to dhv
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    Default Re: Guide to DHV - Autismus Conversationalist Trilogy (Eine)

    Read your posts out of order (read part two first) but this is just as good.. I have high expectations for part three now though
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    Default Re: Guide to DHV - Autismus Conversationalist Trilogy (Eine)

    Cheers, this is really good! It brilliant to see someone giving easy to follow advice without actually telling the person what to say. Really, these ideas can be incorporated into any frame. Good stuff mate!
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