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    Question Help getting a D2 after a mistake.

    (In advance please forgive the length)

    So this HB I met during day game asked me to add her on Facebook and we sent a few messages back and forth over the last week or so. Here's just a piece of our conversation:

    ME: So you don't sleep much do you?

    HER:
    i have a hammer
    i could always knock myself out
    but i live alone, and as i've stated before my cats aren't trained to dial 911
    so if things get messy
    i'm screwed

    1:45am
    ME
    I think that would just give you a nasty bump and make you uglier. I don't suggest it.

    1:45am
    HER
    true
    always thinking aren't you

    1:45am
    ME
    Hey someone needs to look out for you.

    1:45am
    HER
    very much appreciated
    what's your solution?

    1:46am
    ME
    Cuddles and hair played with.

    1:46am
    HER
    it doesn't have the same effect when you're cuddling yourself
    and playing with your own hair
    lol

    1:47am
    ME
    Good point..
    teach your cats to do it maybe?

    1:47am
    HER
    they can't even dial 911
    actually
    milkshake totally does play with my hair
    he brushes it sometimes with his paws
    oh gawd...i'm such a crazy cat lady
    that's pathetic
    that covers me....you're still screwed though

    1:48am
    ME
    I guess I'll need to get me a little pussy.

    1:48am
    HER
    badatsch
    very nice


    So the following day I decide to get her to commit to a date. Here's how the conversation went:

    ME
    So I'm borrowing you tonight and we are going dancing.

    HER
    Oh, is that so?

    ME
    Yep no ifs, ands or buts.... well maybe a few butts
    It's 80's night

    HER
    and this is taking place where?

    ME

    (Place)
    in (city)

    HER
    oh, that's in (city) right?
    I've heard of that place actually

    ME
    It's pretty chill.
    Went there with a few friends last month and wouldn't mind going again.

    HER
    You should probably borrow someone else, I haven't been much fun to be around lately

    ME
    Which is precisely the reason why you need a night out. Sure I could bring other friends and might possibly do that but I'd prefer if you came as well.

    HER
    what time you going to be there?

    ME
    Depends how long you going to keep me here talking to you?

    HER
    last question i promise
    haha

    ME
    I'm aiming to be there around 9:30 or 10. I'll call you when I'm close.

    HER
    alright, sounds good.


    So we meet up and I run some Kino and dhv on her. She insists on buying me drinks even when I told her I can afford my own. She said she didn't dance but when I started dancing with another girl there she came over and joined in. So lots of IOI's all night long. After the club closed I asked her if she was ready to go home or if she would like to join me for breakfast. So we went to an all night diner and we got into a conversation on how she normally isn't comfortable around new people until she's met them a few times. So I played a little game with her and said Hi, my name is darkblue_eyes have we met before. This got her laughing and became a running joke with us.

    I casually threw out the idea of me coming home with her since it was on my way to work the next day. I said "So now that we've met each other several times does this mean I get to meet your pussies?" I think this is where I farked up. She laughed and said she doesn't invite new people over.

    So I'm not sure if I farked up or if she just didn't want me over there. Then today she hasn't text-ed me at all or made any contact. I'm waiting a few days before I say anything.

    Do you have any advice on how to proceed?

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    Default Re: Help getting a D2 after a mistake.

    its all about whose in control bro...


    At first you were both equal both throwing out jokes and banter thats great shes on a intellectual level with you and can keep up with ya jokes....


    she didnt want to go to the club but you convinced her thats good...

    She tried to win you over with drinks and got jealous that you were dancing with another girl... all great ioi's


    but the moment you made the suggestion to go to her place you handed the power back over to her...


    its her choice now she has control over the outcome...

    you need to make it her idea somehow or invent a reason why you should be invited...

    Tell her about this awesome thing you have really sell it

    then offer to lend her the movie/book/game tell her she has to see this it'll change her life...

    and lead her to your place... don't invite her in just walk in and leave the door open


    see what she does... if she comes in then i always go by the rule If they are ok doing it to you then you should be ok doing it back

    so in theory if she enters without an invite then she feels ready enough to enter your world... \

    if she stands outside waiting invite her in...

    the same Rule applies if your willing to do something to them it means you willing for them to do it back to you

    i call this the DoUnto Rule

    Do unto others as you would have them do Unto you

    Ask her again at another time if you can come up and give a reason why you should....

    you could even be a cheeky Chappy and say you've seen mine



    Charge her you could say i'll let you in but it'll cost you... You have to show me your place now...

    or you could say i'll lend you this but it'll cost you.... you have to introduce me to your cats...


    give it ago... Charge her for it lol

    you could even play a game with her if you don't to take her to your place and set the price as she has to take you to her place and show her cats ect lol

    Chappy ^_^

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    Default Re: Help getting a D2 after a mistake.

    I'll give it a try. Thanks for the advice. How long should I wait before I contact her again? Also as far as her coming to my place I had already suggested that and sold it really well that night since she had to go to a meeting in the town I live in. She says she never stays at anyone's house because of her cats. So I think that's out of the question.

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    Default Re: Help getting a D2 after a mistake.

    So I waited a few days. She randomly texted me "Good morning what's up?" I replied with "Oh just got back from Djing (I usually DJ on the weekends at events all over our state) I'm wiped out." No response yet and it's been 12 hours. Should I cut losses and move on?

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    Default Re: Help getting a D2 after a mistake.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conchappie View Post
    if she comes in then i always go by the rule If they are ok doing it to you then you should be ok doing it back
    so in theory if she enters without an invite then she feels ready enough to enter your world... \if she stands outside waiting invite her in...
    the same Rule applies if your willing to do something to them it means you willing for them to do it back to you
    i call this the DoUnto Rule

    Do unto others as you would have them do Unto you
    This is FAN-TAS-TIC advise! Because it applies report at all levels.
    If she teases you, tease her back a bit more. If she doesn't text you, don't text her. If she stops playing games (like WordFeud) you can't stop also but you can ask her if she's scared to loose with a attached to the message. Be sure to use smileys sometimes, but again, watch how she uses them.

    I don't concur to the "don't ask to go the her house"-part, because she would then be in control. My experiences are that when you're in her house, you're more in control than at your own house, because she let you into her safe place already. How much ioi does a guy need?

    I think the TO made a mistake by calling the cats "pussies". It was fun the first time online (she sure got the sexual tease) but it was too confronting the second time as a direct invite to her house.

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    Default Re: Help getting a D2 after a mistake.

    Quote Originally Posted by darkblue_eyes View Post
    So I waited a few days. She randomly texted me "Good morning what's up?" I replied with "Oh just got back from Djing (I usually DJ on the weekends at events all over our state) I'm wiped out." No response yet and it's been 12 hours. Should I cut losses and move on?
    Come on man, no response after 12 hours, no prob, she could be at work, she might even be testing you. Be relaxed about it. If she hasn't replied in 3 days, text her and make some joke.

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    Default Re: Help getting a D2 after a mistake.

    I don't concur to the "don't ask to go the her house"-part, because she would then be in control. My experiences are that when you're in her house, you're more in control than at your own house, because she let you into her safe place already. How much ioi does a guy need?
    What I meant was don't ask - make it her idea... Asking does give her power... It's her choice Yes or No and in most cases if she has already displayed a ASD then default answer -NO

    Once ya in that's great and like dutchmarc (ik begrijp het) said its great for you cause she's invited you into her world and ready (subconsciously anyway) to let you in...


    I'll give it a try. Thanks for the advice. How long should I wait before I contact her again? Also as far as her coming to my place I had already suggested that and sold it really well that night since she had to go to a meeting in the town I live in. She says she never stays at anyone's house because of her cats. So I think that's out of the question.
    This is a long Post brace yaself haha but the info is good try and read it

    I never said to invite her in with the intent of her Staying AKA sleeping over....

    I should have been more clearer

    I meant invent a reason for her to come in and create a False Time Constriant. Tell her she can't stay for long as you have to get up early the next day... Set a time if you have to Say " 10.30pm I'll have to kick you out"

    What that does is you pull her towards you by inviting her in then push her away by setting a time limit on how long she can stay.

    Similar to how you let her touch you and then say "hey hands of the merchandise" makes her want to touch you more likewise setting a FTC will make her want to stay longer.

    Remember when you were a kid and ya parents were like it's time for bed now and you were so disappointed because you weren't ready yet... You may have known ya bedtime was say 9pm but when ya parents said its time you would have done anything for slightly longer


    Same thing... As I've said before Connect with her inner child

    Set a FTC and her defences will be down because she knows she ain't expected to stay...

    You know how sometimes you get approach aniexity and inside ya head you may list all the reasons why you shouldn't do something? When you ask a girl to ya place without setting the rules then she'll start to analaze every situation that may occur INCLUDING SEX!!!
    (I'll say it again it's so IMPORTANT to always set the rules for the game...that being said rules can be bent and broken but we'll get to that ^_^)

    Apply what i said about setting up a FTC and then you can take it from there...

    As I said the rules must be set and when it comes to implementing the rules if you can sense that both of you are on the same wavelength so to speak then you can say
    "I suppose I could break the rules... Just this once..."

    Sight-Intent-Desire

    I was only telling you to invite her to your place so that would LEAD to you being invited into her place...


    If ya intent is to sleep with her ASAP. She may sense that and get scared off


    Your desires and intentions are shown through you eyes.... You look at what you want


    Sight and desire are connected.


    So if you invite her up and tell her she can't stay long and EARNESTLY believe what your tell her is true then she'll sense that and comply.... Make eye contact as you tell her


    Once you've used you intent to get her inside ... You can flip it now and change you intent... Perhaps to a more sexual one???

    The StairCase Theory

    What you may be doing is skipping a few steps... It's called escalation for a reason.


    If your climbing a staircase there are two ways to reach the top...

    1. To take one step at a time.
    2. To jump and skip several steps


    Both should get you to your destination unless you stumble and fall down a few steps

    Option 1 is gradual and safe... It's proven that over time you will make it to the top...

    Option 2 however is more risky... Yes you MAY get there faster... But by skipping a few steps you MAY also misplace ya step and stumble or even over reach and not quite make it....

    It is possible to maybe skip one or two steps safely but the risks of over reaching what ya body can't physically achieve comes down just to luck whether you make it really lol


    So same as with Kino Escalation where you gradually introduce your touch to get them used to and comfortable with you to move forward -

    (starting with light touches to non frettening areas like the shoulders, hands, arms.... Moving forward to the face, legs, knees, thigh, stomach, chest....)

    You can't just start stroking her hand lightly the expect her to be ok with her touching her breasts! Lol



    It's very similar to your situation you can't just skip THAT many steps one or two is ok but jumping straight to the top is highly unlikely...

    It's not impossible with a staircase to fall from the top all the way back down to the beginning....

    That's why you must be careful with option 2 cause in some cases it may get you further in, but on the otherhand, it may make you slip up and tumble all the way back to where you started....




    I hope my wordy analogies and answers are helpful.

    Sorry if I repeated myself hope it helps bro keep us updated. ...


    Chappy ^_^


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