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Thread: Ignore/Neg combo is the way to go.

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    Thumbs up Ignore/Neg combo is the way to go.

    I'm finding that in any situation like a bar or a house party that ignoring your target is definitely the way to go.

    Been out a couple of times the past week and I was sceptical.

    Was in a new pub last night and a girl came up who new some of the guys in our group. Was watching them all flounder to get a word in with her while I sat back and chatted to the guys around me, making jokes and looking like the "social centre".

    Eventually after about 15 minutes, she was sitting down and I looked up and caught her eye. I hit her with the "Jeez you know its rude to stare" with a smile and she got all defensive. She went on to be real chatty and stayed with me longer than the other guys.

    Went on from there to seal the deal with a kiss.

    This seems to work in most situations? Any downsides to negs? Do some girls not appreciate this kind of thing?
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    Default Re: Ignore/Neg combo is the way to go.

    I like ignoring and negging but it depends on who you are in terms of personality and looks but mainly on her depending on what she can be like as well. If she's a bitch then definitely neg her in a way that you notice a small flaw in her (an example would be 'your eyeliner is running slightly'), if she's sweet and nice than I would use one that asserts your dominance and not another boring nice guy (another example 'excuse me, I was speaking, it's rude to interrupt').

    But an old rule of thumb is the hotter the girls, the more you neg. I would normally use negs like pebbles and just dash them out, I'm generally not picky so if I neg one girl at random she will therefore be my target. As for ignoring, I would say this works, as long as you have social proof like when you said you had all the guys talking to you.

    It's actually funny, met a stuck up french girl in September and she's always hanging out with a friend of mine and she thinks shes a 10 when really I see her as a 8 at best. Saw her when I was speaking with a friend, even though the dude liked her and all, he couldn't help but speak to me because I was that charismatic. When I left I looked at her with a smug smile and turned to my other friend and laughed as if something was wrong with her when walking away. Recently found out she's been trying to find out who I am lol.
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    Default Re: Ignore/Neg combo is the way to go.

    there's an interesting article that is against negging. i believe the premise is if u r a real man, u should not resort to a neg.

    written by Cody, but i do not recall title... search NEG

    cheers

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    Default Re: Ignore/Neg combo is the way to go.

    @Badger

    the things we do - most girls don't notice that we r actively working them differently to what they r use to... chances are, a gurl has negged u - and u haven't noticed.

    ever been so confident in something - and have someone comment on it halfway negatively.?

    example: Badge, i like the way u closed that gurl, but don't u think ur coming off a bit douchy to cut her down to ur level.?

    its not a question of whether or not to use a skill... it's if it's a part of how u work...

    some guy wrote that he dated a lot of women, but felt like a failure because he could not K-Close for 6.months. but maybe he wasn't comfy with that skill yet.? that guy was PUA Neil Strauss, if i got the fact right.

    ur question is - does it work all the time.? while nothing is 100%, if u work a skill so often on targets, u will find different ways to deliver ur skill more effectively.

    that's y we have all kinds of schools out there... and it's from guys who take ideas that people said were crazy - and refined them.

    .... talking too much now. lol

    so, Badger.... just ask urself if what ur doing feels right. don't go against who u r. there r plenty of schools of thoughts - u just have to take what u like and integrate it.

    does this post help.?

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    Default Re: Ignore/Neg combo is the way to go.

    Whats the other alternative then as opposed to negging? I read something about raising the girl's value but I can't see how that would help as guys probably do this to girls.

    I've also wondered how alcohol affects the whole process. In Ireland, in most nightclubs girls are usually really drunk so getting them to commit to a conversation can be tough as their concentration isn't 100%! Any quick routines that might work for these situations?
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    Default Re: Ignore/Neg combo is the way to go.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBadger View Post
    making jokes and looking like the "social centre".
    It's definitely the way to go when she's the center of attention, otherwise it's not always necessary or the best way. But yeah, I've even gone as far as to tell a friend (when we're standing a decent distant away from her) to pretend like I'm telling him the funniest story and then I'm making all these big hand gestures and laughing non-stop. It worked like a charm. Come to think of it I should really do it more.

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    Default Re: Ignore/Neg combo is the way to go.

    It all depends on the girl. For me i've gotten every line and neg to work atleast once but if you keep using the same attitude you'll find you'll piss 50% of them off and turn 50% of them onto you. You really just have to be a good judge of character and know when a woman just wants to be left alone and when a woman can handle you giving her a hard time.

    It all comes down to skill, some men can recover after a woman throws up her Bitch Shield and some can't. If you can give her a direct neg and wound her to the point where she'll confront you about being rude and you can still come back with confidence and get her number, that's versatility, that's skill and i admire that.

    But ya... I'd have to agree, i've gotten the most 10s by simply ignoring them and laying my suave game on beta bitches and keeping an overall confident and happy outlook at the party and then towards the end of the night giving her a very small neg and proceeding to flirt and # close.

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    Default Re: Ignore/Neg combo is the way to go.

    Quote Originally Posted by YOKiTran View Post
    there's an interesting article that is against negging. i believe the premise is if u r a real man, u should not resort to a neg.

    written by Cody, but i do not recall title... search NEG

    cheers
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