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Thread: Forget Expectations of being a PUA

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    Default Forget Expectations of being a PUA

    I would just like to discuss some thoughts and feelings that have arisen recently with regards to what is expected of us as PUA's and just PU in general.

    Everyone that is dedicated to the "game" can somehow relate to what I am about to say. And if not, you are still really new and I feel that you could learn something.

    Firstly I am no expert and have only been in the game for a short period of time but I believe there are a lot of misconceptions when it comes to what is good game and what is bad game. New guys (me included) get into this habit of thinking that when X happens, Y has to follow with no exceptions, otherwise your game will not be effective. This is evident when newbies focus on perfecting canned material and routines and when the sh1t hits the fan, they have no idea what to do next.

    My reasoning for this post is that I have recently been opened, by a really gorgeous lady, through OkCupid. I don't exactly have the greatest profile but for some reason this particular lady found it interesting enough to initiate conversation. Up until recently, I have been so focused on how to portray myself, purely because of everything I have learned about PU, that I almost became a robot programmed only to operate within the "rules" of the game. There are no rules!!! Despite what everyone says about you needing to do this to dhv or you need to follow this routine to Number Close, You should be more focused on being as natural as possible, using your own judgement and common sense to decide what is acceptable and what is more likely to yield favorable results. I look back at some of my messages to this lady and I can see a ton of things I have done that would be considered AFC, but they have had the complete opposite effect of what I expected. We have been able to have one of the most intelligent and interesting conversations I've ever had with any lady in my life. In fact she has even mentioned that we need to meet in person to get to know each other better.

    Basically this post is telling you guys that you need to pay more attention to calibrating with a lady then worrying about the next piece of canned material in your routine stack. After all, a lady would undoubtedly prefer to have a conversation with someone that seems to be intellectually intelligent, instead of someone that has the perfect reply to any question or situation that arises during a "regular, human like" interaction.

    Don't fall into the trap of trying to remember every aspect of PU but rather just go with the flow of things and don't be afraid of trying new things.


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    Default Re: Forget Expectations of being a PUA

    I agree with you that it is better to be an interesting and original person than a regurgitating machine, but I also think that a lot of people who seek the generic PUA approach are not the "intellectual" types. It is one thing to facilitate a philosophical discussion for an extensive period of time, and another thing to employ a method with a specific purpose in mind. Of course, we are all physically and psychologically equipped with the tools to seek and attain a partner, but, like everything else, there is room for error, and the aim of the PU art is to omit as many of those errors as possible. No one is trying to impose this unnatural approach, you can always act as an example of whatever it is you preach – but it just so happens that the role models of this community have a particular approach in mind, and it happens to be very effective and teachable.

    I would also love to act natural and "intellectual" with the women I meet, and I might as well get some game out of it, but in reality, once you reflect on your experience, and rationalize it, then you realize that there is much room for improvement - this is where PU art comes in.

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    Default Re: Forget Expectations of being a PUA

    Canned material and lines do have their place. When you open a can of green beans, do you sit there and eat the whole can? Of course not. It's a SIDE for whatever meal you may be having. You take a portion of the can for your meal, and put the rest up for later when you are hungry again. I have little routines and lines I use, but sparingly. How can you ever try any other sides if you are only eating green beans? You have to be adept and adapt. I was recently giving a girl the cube routine. This time around, I asked her to picture a desert landscape. Her cube was on a camel. Now I can't very well say that this camel can't be there...it's HER image, but believe me it was a mental workout. We laughed a lot and had a great time with it. It was the WORST cube I have EVER done, but the most successful.
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    Default Re: Forget Expectations of being a PUA

    Great post Supremo! The spirit of Cody and the Force is with you
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    Default Re: Forget Expectations of being a PUA

    @supremo i can't agree more with what you have to say, the best material is always material that is made up on the fly, being natural and spontanious will get you places no canned material ever could

    @blistex, about the hole green beans analogie, sometimes i do just eat a whole can of green beans raw strait from the can thats why some people i know call me "the green giant" lol

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    Default Re: Forget Expectations of being a PUA

    No doubt I agree there is a time and a place for canned material. I just feel that aspiring PUA's get so caught up in trying to use canned material throughout an interaction that they miss the point of the interaction. Whic is to have fun.

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    Default Re: Forget Expectations of being a PUA

    Some people need to work more thats all. Canned stuff can help those who are truly socially inept to learn how to basically interact with people.

    Its always better to be natural of course.
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