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Thread: possible IOIs, how to approach?

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    Smile possible IOIs, how to approach?

    hey guys,
    newbie here who needs help. posted this under the flirt section but i think it'd be more appropriate here. so i walked into class late (1st day) and grabbed a random seat. this girl sitting beside me (never met or spoken to her before) just out of nowhere offered to send me her notes. also i noticed during lesson she did the occasional glance over and then she smiled when i looked at her. are these ioi's or simply just friendly gestures? also what kind of approach best fits this context? i replied her email with somethin like 'thanks i owe u one, hit me up if u wanna do a study group', bad line?

    advice is appreciated thnx

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    Default Re: possible IOIs, how to approach?

    Don't double poooooooooooooooooss sssssssst
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    Default Re: possible IOIs, how to approach?

    sry, gonna try to delete the other one! anyways, forgive the n00b question but what kinda approach/game would be appropriate?

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    Default Re: possible IOIs, how to approach?

    Ah yea. A girl (out of the blue) just offers up something to you. Plus the follow up smile. Not sure if there was another guy sitting next to her on the other side, but sounds like a definite ioi and she was physically attracted to you.

    You need to start escalating that attraction by bringing more to the table.

    As for your line...Oh dear...Never write a line like that again. Thats the chump version. It's boring/uninteresting, generic. Worst of all, you put "if you wanna" That is weak. It's like you are giving her a reason to say 'I'll pass." If you are trying to sell yourself and you say "if you wanna" it reflects your value.

    Check out T-Mals guide. He would recommend something like this:

    "Hey lifesaver, thx for the notes! So get your thinking cap on... Studying at @ [location] @ 7:12. Let's put our heads together and ace this exam!"

    You are subtly inviting her without putting the ball in her court. It shows that you are confident, interesting and fun.

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    Default Re: possible IOIs, how to approach?

    my seat was surrounded by girls lol. how do i salvage this?

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    Default Re: possible IOIs, how to approach?

    Well luckily that email is not a deal-breaker...but *shivers*...texting is only a setup tool to give her an idea what you are like. The real you is what matters.

    You can salvage by demonstrating that you in person is a hell lot more interesting than your text.

    Class is usually not a good place to do your game, because there is a certain degree of professionalism in the classroom. After class, you will have to walk with her out and make small talk.

    There's some guides out there on building attraction through conversation (too long to explain and you will have to do some homework yourself by checking out some guides). And right there in that time you got, you need to close by getting her to agree to meet you for a date. Same rules goes as in texting.

    DO NOT SAY (same mistakes on your text)
    "Hey are you busy this saturday?"
    "Hey, I'm going to [x bar], you wanna join me for a drink?"

    HOW TO SAY IT
    Say you got her laughing and you got her all fluffed up, you need to break off from the climactic moment/height of attraction. Excuse yourself. It's tough to do because you wanna ride the uplifting moment, but her last memory of you will be a uplifting one rather than ending it at the bottom of the slope.

    Say something like: "Hey listen, I really gotta get going, but I definitely want to pick this up sometimes this week, you know [x restaurant]? I wanna check that place out, I saw its super cool inside and heard they have great [x type of food]. (notice you didn't verbally invite her, it's implied that you are inviting her)

    Don't tell her when. If is she is interested in you, she will most likely, ask "when" or she may tell you when she is free (even better).

    If not, block off 2 nights to tell her you are busy. Tell her a day "Saturday but after 7:30 pm"

    This usually locks it in and prevents flaking because you've shown you are busy and your time is valuable.

    Worst comes to worst, If she says she is busy and booked out all week, then DO NOT FOLLOW UP WITH: "Oh how about [x] night?" or "When is a good time for you." (alot of mistakes guys make).

    Just numbers close her.

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    Default Re: possible IOIs, how to approach?

    forgive the n00b question but could someone suggest a quick and good numbers close for an amateur like me? also shes been doing stuff like rubbing against my arm/jacket and leaning close to me so should i adopt like a more direct approach?

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    Default Re: possible IOIs, how to approach?

    the assumptive Number Close. goes like this

    you, take out your phone and say "how do you spell your name?"
    she will spell it, and then just say "number?"

    its so simple you cant fuck it up
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    Default Re: possible IOIs, how to approach?

    wanted to numbers close in person but got cockblocked by a bunch of randoms who took my usual seat so im thinking of closing thru an email, maybe something like ''hey i thought u were saving me a seat(i asked her to last lesson and she said ''i will''), gimme your number so i wont be stuck with fat smelly guys again ''. thoughts?

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    Default Re: possible IOIs, how to approach?

    Quote Originally Posted by youngpadawan View Post
    wanted to numbers close in person but got cockblocked by a bunch of randoms who took my usual seat so im thinking of closing thru an email, maybe something like ''hey i thought u were saving me a seat(i asked her to last lesson and she said ''i will''), gimme your number so i wont be stuck with fat smelly guys again ''. thoughts?
    On that note you should generally N-close in person. Now I have successfully N-closed a HB7 I added on FB that I added from work. That being said by the time I got her # I had already gone AFC so no dice on a D2.

    My suggestion is to N-close ASAP next time. Also remember a # usually doesn't equal a GF. So many fitness tests come after that it is not even funny.

    Also you have to build attraction all over again which is hard over texts since most girls stop answering after you screw up which for me is pretty quick.

    I would recommend trying to tell her some place you are going the following day in person to meet up then when she agrees N-close.

    Most social situations don't allow this but may work for you here. Getting this girl's # based on the dynamics of the situation you are in demand you get her invested in a next day meet up since you getting her number here is pretty weak (beta move)


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