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    Default I'd like some indirect openers

    Hey guys, I saw your Posts on openers. I really dont like to play the number games anymore, I wanna get some super hot girls lol. The only openers i usually do are indirect, like where i approach a girl, i will say something dumb to throw her off and then say, "i came to talk to you because your really cute" and i have had success. I have also had success with Indirect, the only one i know is the boots or purse. where i say it looks really nice and my friends birthday is coming up. from there you can ask a series of question and Number Close. Do you know any other indirect? this is the only one i know!! Let me Know some Indirect openers because direct openers kind off show neediness and i want high success rate!

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    Default re: I'd like some indirect openers

    search the forum there are huge loads of threads on this topic.
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    Default re: I'd like some indirect openers

    Quote Originally Posted by shymackin View Post
    direct openers kind off show neediness and i want high success rate!
    WHOA! HOLD IT! SIT BACK DOWN!

    "Direct openers kind of show neediness"?? No. Hell no. The only thing that could possibly show neediness while direct opening is your non-verbal communication. If you open direct like it's the most normal thing in the world (which it is if you think about it), you'll be fine. If you open indirect and show poor body language/voice tone you'll still come off as needy.

    Opening direct properly is far from needy. In fact, it's ballsy and appreciated by women. They're tired of bullsh1t openers where you both know what's going on and no one points out the pink elephant in the room. Even if they don't have interest in you, the compliment makes them smile. The honesty is refreshing.

    About that high success rate: the greatest direct gurus have had hundreds and hundreds of women. David X is close to 1,000. He kept a list until he hit 500 and then threw it out because it became too large. The direct men are able to close much faster on average because they don't have to go through all kinds of routines and games. As the above mentioned said: 'I'm just showing them what's on my menu. If that's what they want, great. If not, go to someone else'.

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    Default Re: I'd like some indirect openers

    thanks man. i have more experience with direct openers, your right, thanks man.
    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    WHOA! HOLD IT! SIT BACK DOWN!

    "Direct openers kind of show neediness"?? No. Hell no. The only thing that could possibly show neediness while direct opening is your non-verbal communication. If you open direct like it's the most normal thing in the world (which it is if you think about it), you'll be fine. If you open indirect and show poor body language/voice tone you'll still come off as needy.

    Opening direct properly is far from needy. In fact, it's ballsy and appreciated by women. They're tired of bullsh1t openers where you both know what's going on and no one points out the pink elephant in the room. Even if they don't have interest in you, the compliment makes them smile. The honesty is refreshing.

    About that high success rate: the greatest direct gurus have had hundreds and hundreds of women. David X is close to 1,000. He kept a list until he hit 500 and then threw it out because it became too large. The direct men are able to close much faster on average because they don't have to go through all kinds of routines and games. As the above mentioned said: 'I'm just showing them what's on my menu. If that's what they want, great. If not, go to someone else'.

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    Default Re: I'd like some indirect openers

    The last opener I used was direct (Virg and Cody will be proud)

    Aut: "Hey beautiful, how you doin?"
    HB: "I need a man"
    *Elitist and Mr.Tman are on either side
    Aut: "Boom! Just like that - three men! *takes hand* Come with me darling."

    That chick was all over me (thanks to Elitist in my ear and distracting a c*ck block!)

    Point is already been said by Virgil: you can run direct and generate huge attraction when done right. Can even take it home same-night (tho I chose not to)
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    Default Re: I'd like some indirect openers

    Quick question I'm still struggling with. How do you effectively direct open someone a HB in a group?
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    Default Re: I'd like some indirect openers

    Quote Originally Posted by Autismus View Post

    That chick was all over me (thanks to Elitist in my ear and distracting a c*ck block!)
    Straight AMOGin! Lol. Dafuq happened to that FR anyway?
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    Default Re: I'd like some indirect openers

    @TheDuke: I'm not stellar on that but you usually gotta acknowledge that they might be with the dude - and befriend them a bit.

    "Hi, I don't mean to offend if this gorgeous woman is with you, but I'd like to steal her away for a converstaion if she's not taken" Keep it alpha and looj at everyone in the group. Or just assume she's not with him - but be reeeally non-threatening within an alpha frame

    @Elitist: Yeah I had been had homework this week :P I'll try to get it done before the dinner!

    Also * "Mr.Tman" I referenced above is Taylor1090 ...I didn't remember if that was his forum name and didn't want to out him if it wasn't.

    ...but not to threadjack, yeah direct is tuff in a group. The trick is to just not make any enemies, make allies if ou can, and then sustain it by keeping a vibe going so it feels like you and she are one unit interacting with tje group (Kino) rather than you interactimg with the group in awkwardly different ways (kino to.her and not to anyone else feels wierd later in the set if you two arent vibing)
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    Default Re: I'd like some indirect openers

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDuke View Post
    Quick question I'm still struggling with. How do you effectively direct open someone a HB in a group?
    The effect of opening a small group can really be a chain reaction. The one or two friends she has with her will react positively if you've opened in a good way. Where normally a girl might blush or laugh or whatever, her friends might do the same and enhance the emotion (thus a chain reaction). So open them in the usual way - walk up there and tell them why you're there.

    Now, besides the "usual" stuff, you also have to add switching eye contact every couple of seconds. Since you'll only throw out one or two lines while opening, you have to be quick about that - but not too quick!!!

    EG: 3-set.
    Arrival and 'hi' - eye contact on group
    'I saw you girls standing here' - eye contact on friend one
    'and I just had to come over to say' - eye contact on friend two
    'that you look absolutely stunning. I want to get to know you'. - eye contact on target

    Talk slowly for longer eye contact with each girl.

    Note that all this is based on my experience during the daytime, not in bars/clubs where they see you coming from a mile away and they've already rejected 24 guys that evening.


    EDIT: @Autismus. I'm proud of you, man. Love ya, you're the best. :P

    No seriously, nice one.

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    Default Re: I'd like some indirect openers

    dude like i just started college, so me and my friend do these openers there or maybe mall or san jose downtown, even there we barely find girls walking around. we can barely find girls our age. I got a fake id so i went to night clubs and these spots are crawling with dudes but do you have any advice on me starting out haha eventhough i am 18. literally. where do you guys game? i wanna improve but i need a new setting!! thanks...i just wanna be a BOSS when i turn 21 aha
    Quote Originally Posted by Autismus View Post
    The last opener I used was direct (Virg and Cody will be proud)

    Aut: "Hey beautiful, how you doin?"
    HB: "I need a man"
    *Elitist and Mr.Tman are on either side
    Aut: "Boom! Just like that - three men! *takes hand* Come with me darling."

    That chick was all over me (thanks to Elitist in my ear and distracting a c*ck block!)

    Point is already been said by Virgil: you can run direct and generate huge attraction when done right. Can even take it home same-night (tho I chose not to)


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