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    Default safe but effective opener??

    I'm very inexperienced in picking up women so i want to ask you what is the easiest way to do it.For example what kind of opener is easy to say and feel comfortable with it(not something cheesy)?Asking for an opinion maybe?I would be grateful if you could give me an example of a conversation

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    Default Re: safe but effective opener??

    You could read this post: http://www.puaforums.com/pua-openers...rl-street.html

    Although keep this in mind. Their is NO special opener. Their is NO safe openers. The best opener is ''Hi''. Basiclly if you give yourself a mind set that you're going out to get girls. You'll stress. I give myself the mind set that I'll be out to meet new people and have fun. If I get rejected or the conversation isn't connecting then I move on and not even feel bad because think about it, theirs a million girls you've never meet yet.

    You should work on Attraction, Mind sets, Body language and understand the concept of Openers,negs,Kino. All this will help you out a lot. Good luck.

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    Default Re: safe but effective opener??

    Dude,don't use safe openers,you will not learn the game by avoiding rejections/embarrassments...

    Don't avoid them...Look forward to them!This is fun as hell,whenever i go direct i get rejected so many times,and i don't give a damn.I find it fun,i don't even feel rejected,the girl just either walks past me or says that she's busy or something.Usually it's also because I'm being too cocky sometimes.

    Usually when i go direct(although i don't go direct a lot,just to show off in front of my friends or something),and say something like "Hey,I had to meet you,like magnets we were pulled together in this life,can you believe it ?(random example) ",when she gets out of the shock of what the hell just happened,i go like "Where are you headed ?I bet it doesn't matter anymore cuz you've met someone like me".

    Yep this is how i go direct,and i have so much success with it,you can't even start realizing how much of an AFC i was just a year ago.
    Yet i turned into one of the biggest d1cks you can imagine,i just stopped giving a damn.

    Also watch SimplePickup/Sasha Daygame/Keys to the vip on youtube for perfect examples of Direct Game and how easy it really is.

    Edit***

    If you want examples of easy safe conversations using Indirect Approach,watch VH1's the Pickup Artist.
    Also search youtube for Mystery videos and indirect approaches.

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    Default Re: safe but effective opener??

    If you want the opener to be sage, it wont be effective. You habe to risk getting blown out if you want to close, so you can try every opener that fits your personality as long as youre confident. I think you could even go up to a girl and say something like "alfie likes rattlesnakes" with a big smile and initiate a conversation. try some out, youll notice your style

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    Default Re: safe but effective opener??

    I believe that there is no way you can have a canned opener that is effective. Each opener is unique, just like every girl is unique. The opener should fit the situation (i.e. grocery store, mall, gym, etc.)

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    Default Re: safe but effective opener??

    Quote Originally Posted by eudaimwn93 View Post
    I'm very inexperienced in picking up women so i want to ask you what is the easiest way to do it.For example what kind of opener is easy to say and feel comfortable with it(not something cheesy)?Asking for an opinion maybe?I would be grateful if you could give me an example of a conversation
    Look, I disagree with a lot of what I read below but the truth is the opener doesn't really matter that much. I opened two lovely 21 year olds last night with "Oh, hell no." I have opened with, "what's it going to take for you to love me?" (credit keys to the VIP) You can even listen to a couple of of my recent opens posted below.

    The thing is that you open and conquer your fear of rejection and approach. I rarely use the direct approach simply because I don't believe it's quite as effective for my personal method of seduction but that's a different story. Use situational, use direct, use indirect but above all else approach and open. Safety isn't important, I haven't botched an opener in years, it just take practice.

    Kino - In Field Audio 3-15-13

    Kino - In Field Audio Mixed set open

    Here are two opens for you to review.

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    Default Re: safe but effective opener??

    Quote Originally Posted by eudaimwn93 View Post
    I'm very inexperienced in picking up women so i want to ask you what is the easiest way to do it.For example what kind of opener is easy to say and feel comfortable with it(not something cheesy)?Asking for an opinion maybe?I would be grateful if you could give me an example of a conversation
    We can't really help you because we don't know where you're going to meet women. I use different openers at parties and clubs than I do in coffee shops and bus stops. At parties and clubs I drop the pretense and go "direct," "Hey we haven't met yet, I'm fuckin' Duncan Idaho." In the day time I go more indirect, sometimes I'll even just ask directions and then transition to normal conversation from there.


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