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    Default Being the Alpha Male

    Imagine this scenario for a second:

    Picture yourself in a bar. You have a lovely lady sitting right across from you engaged in a great conversation with you. Things are going great for you, and you think tonight you are going to score.

    And then, He walks into the place.

    This is the man that is going to ruin your night. He catches the attention of your girl and begins talking with her. You fight to maintain her attention, but in the end he wins and you go home dry.

    Ever have that happen to you? If it has, then you know exactly what this poor man has gone through. If it hasn't, then you are lucky. If you have done this to another guy before, then you are close to or at the point of being one of the Alpha Males.

    An Alpha Male, to accurately put it, is a man who is one notch above the rest. His ability to influence and take is powerful because he is seldom, if ever, opposed. Women respect this man while men either worship him, scorn him, or abandon him all together.

    Of course, you don't want to be in the last two perspectives for males. You want to be able to not only make the women respect you, but the men as well. To accomplish this, I have put together a guide on assembling yourself into the strongest Alpha Male possible that will not only get you the women easier, but will also command the respect of the men around you.

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    Poise
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    The first thing we are going to go over is how you should physically present yourself around others. Even though many people say to not judge a book by its cover, we do it more often than not. Even worse, sometimes we will operate off of second-hand opinion, but we won't be getting to that part until latter.

    When it comes to posture, your back should never be arched. Straighten it out, and roll your shoulders back. Another important thing is your head. Never have your head facing the ground. Keep it up.

    Another important thing is the walk. Usually, it is best to take it nice and easy. Slow, powerful strides. Your arms should be pumping slightly, but not a lot like a runner. Another place for your arms are bowed out and hands in the pockets.

    If you would like, you can also try to model your posture and walk after someone else. For instance, I am currently studying James Bond in order to match his physical portrayal. Eventually, I will study other sources and come up with my own that comes across as the most prominent.

    When it comes to fashion, who cares? You can be dressed as a goth, a nerd, whatever. The most important thing is that you own and pull off your fashion. If you go about like you know you own it, it will physically show, and people will notice.

    More info on how to do this to come up right now.

    Mindset
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    Now, let's work on the inner game. It's one thing to be able to walk around looking like you are a notch above the rest, but it's another thing to be able to act like it too.

    The first thing we're going to work on is ego. In order to be a great Alpha Male, you need to have a large ego. You are a king, a God compared to other men around you. You know that when you walk up to a woman, she will drop on her knees for you. You know that when a guy approaches you, he will respect you and let you have whatever you want whenever you want. Why? Because you are the Alpha Male.

    Of course it's always important to keep logic and cool heads in the picture. You won't always win, so don't let your ego get too large. You all get the general drift of what it should be though.

    The next thing is having confidence. Confidence does a ton to boost and carry yourself around. The best way to do this is to just go in there and be yourself. You tell your mind that you are going to go in there and be natural and that there is nothing that it can do about it. You own your mind, and you make your mind give you the power you want. If you're having a first time anxiety, just take one step forward, and soon you will find yourself take another step, and another, and soon you're in motion.

    As has been said many times here, NEVER let oneitis take over your mind. I may have an interest in a girl, but I have not let that cloud my judgement when it comes to my game. Keep this in mind: When that girl leaves you after a night, a week, or a year, she will eat, laugh, and make out in all of the same places that the two of you did. She's just another fish in the great wide ocean, so don't build any extreme emotional attachments to her yet. I say yet because one day you might want to settle down with the girl that you deem just right for you. I know I will.

    A big thing to avoid is indecision. When you show moments of indecision, it shows an incapability to think and is an indicator of weakness. Men who are more snappy and confident in their decisions are more likely to be followed than men who can't make up their mind over plans. I have field tests to back this up right here. Because I moved and acted with confidence, other men followed me, made the same decisions I did, and tended to agree with my ideas.

    Speaking of plans, there's another thing that can be covered. When it comes to making plans, don't invite failure. What I mean by that is by starting an invite with this:

    "If you would like..."

    No, no, no. That is just asking for the girl to say no to you. When you make plans, tell her that you have an interest that the two of you are going to do. ARE, not COULD, ARE. This establishes your firmness in plans. If she is not busy, then she will submit and follow. If she is busy, she will tell you so. At this point, you should give her the cold shoulder. She cannot accept your terms, so you show her that you're losing interest in her. If she attempts to establish a time to work by, accept them or change them according to what YOU want.

    The Single Scenario
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    And here is the part where we begin to discuss tactics to take down other men. We now almost find ourselves in the shoes of the man who took away your girl in the imaginative scenario. I say almost, because the way you are going to take down another man is different from how the imaginative man did it, and it works way better.

    The first thing you need to do is redirect your focus. The woman is no longer your target. The man is. When another wolf in a pack attempts to take the alpha wolf's mate, does the alpha wolf attempt to capture the attention of its mate? No, the alpha wolf establishes its dominance against the lesser wolf.

    The forefront importance in this scenario is to keep a cool head. Your lady is not going to like it if you blow your head over this guy coming up to you and attempting to take your lady. Plus, it won't look very mature if you throw a tantrum over it either. That's why you should always be calm, even when he loses it.

    To take down a challenger, all you have to do is converse with him. Get his attention, and make him comfortable with you. When this happens, he will begin to show his true colors. At this stage, the next thing to do is to begin to subtly degrade him while increasing your own value.

    Here's an example:

    Me: "So [challenger], you have a job?"
    Challenger: "Yea, I'm a cashier at Shopko. How about you?"
    Me: "Oh sweet, I have an internship at [business]."

    Observe the two conversations. Who do you think has the higher value out of the two? Certainly not the store clerk at Shopko. By pointing this out, you have not only dropped a dlv on him, but you have also given yourself a dhv. Be careful though. If you're the Shopko clerk, avoid the question. Try to stay with ones that you know you have the upper hand in. If he tries to hit you with a question that you know you have a lower value in, downplay it and brush it off as if it wasn't a big factor about you.

    Sounds tough, but its actually pretty easy. The more you go on with him, the more she will be drawn to you instead of him. Eventually, you can dismiss and finish him off with something like this:

    "Well, it was nice to meet you [challenger]. I'll see you latter, and have a great evening."

    It's always important to be polite. Not only will women appreciate this and like this, but the men in an effort to look good will also be forced to submit and accept your kindness. After building rapport with the man though, you can be sure that in the most likely of cases he will be thinking

    "Wow, that guy is great. He's somebody that I can respect."

    The Group Scenario
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    The group scenario approach for an Alpha Male is much similar to the single one. There is one or two things though that you need to change up. There is also a huge advantage to being in a group situation rather than a single situation, and I will tell you why.

    When it comes to the group scenario, you need to approach the men the same way you would in the single scenario. Converse with them, get them comfortable with you, and them make them reveal their true colors. One difference here is that you want to make sure that you are at the center of the group. Out of any of the guys there, you are at the top. You don't have to leave the group though. In fact, it is better that you stick with it.

    Here comes the big benefit I was talking about.

    If you carry yourself with a ton of confidence and know what you are doing, they will follow. Slowly, but surely, they will begin to follow you because they know that if they do, good things will happen for them. Of course, though, that is up to you whether they will get something good or not. For the sake of building up a powerful rep, let them have a girl that you are not interested in.

    As you are walking around with your group, women will also be able to see and sense that you are the top one of the bunch. They will be attracted to this sense of leadership, and they will flock to it. Even if one of the guys in the group wanted her, they can't have her, because she wants you. If any one of them opposes, take them down as if it was still the single scenario.

    Turned-Tables Scenario
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    Finally, I bring up one last interesting scenario for us to deal with. Suppose that all of a sudden, you found yourself under fire by another alpha male. He knows how to carry himself, speak, act, and most importantly take down other males like an Alpha Male can.

    Whatever you do, don't become intimidated or step down. Match his game with his, with a little twist. There's no need for the two of you to fight all night on who is the most superior of the two. Just indiscreetly establish yourself as the first one there. Be respectful, keep a cool head, and if he is the same then he will back off. If not, then that will portray him as an extremely non-superior Alpha Male.

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    Many would view the tactic of taking down other men as mean and crude. However, it is a common aspect of life that we must suffer through every day. People win, and people lose. Likewise, pickup artists win over men who don't know how to talk to women.

    Darwinism at its finest.
    "There is no better than adversity. Every defeat, every heartbreak, every loss, contains its own seed, its own lesson on how to improve your performance the next time." - Malcolm X

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    Default Re: Being the Alpha Male

    Good thread, man!

    This should help with learning how to be AMOG and not being phased by it.

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    Default Re: Being the Alpha Male

    Thanks, I'm glad you find use in this.

    When I was checking out the other AMOG guides, they all offered advice that made me feel like that even if you executed the game perfectly, there was still a good chance that the opposing man would cave in your face if he didn't like you. It's something about addressing the man in a way that would completely annoy him.

    With any method, of course there is the possibility that some other guy would flatten your nose. I am a very peaceful person, and I don't think my sexy ass face could handle a broken nose. Thus, I came up with this field tested method where you are least likely to incur the wrath of anybody and more likely to create respect and attraction.
    "There is no better than adversity. Every defeat, every heartbreak, every loss, contains its own seed, its own lesson on how to improve your performance the next time." - Malcolm X

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    Good stuff man, thanks.
    I deal with quite a few AMOGs in the college party scene. I got blown out of the water at first by them, but at this point I can take on most of them without a problem. What you say about being a nice guy while very subtitling degrading them in the eyes of the woman is spot on. I'm 5'6 and I've taken on guys who are 6 feet or more without a problem. I even befriended the one guy after amoging him (a fellow PUA in training actually, but that didn't mean I was going to let him pick up my girl lol) Any suggestions on how to steal away a girl from an AMOG? (Or any AFC on the dancefloor for that matter.)

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    This article was very useful. I'm new to all this and thankfully never had to experience that. I like the idea of striking up a conversation as oppossed to being confrontational or acting emotional.

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    Default Being the Alpha Male: Part 2

    Good question Jay. I've given it a lot of observation and thought over your question and other things I have discovered. Your question and some new stuff will be covered right here in the latest addition in Being an Alpha Male.

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    Being the Alpha Male: Part 2
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    When it comes to confronting other Alpha Males, you know how to ward them off. However, what if you were the one approaching the alpha male. Surely it is not your intention to become a beta at the mercy of an alpha. What would you do then?

    Before we get into the beef of this, there is a very important concept of being a good Alpha Male that we must cover.

    Kindness
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    This is a big important concept if you want to be a successful Alpha Male. Being a good Alpha Male means being able to present yourself as a strong, nice, sociable person, correct? So why in the world would you be an Alpha Male with the heart of a Scrooge?

    If you see someone having trouble with something, like they have a ton of things to carry, they are lost, or they are simply having a bad day, then go in there and help them. They will appreciate it, remember you, and anyone else watching will have a higher respect for you.

    The other day, I was walking back to my dorm, slipping all over the place on the ice. After I navigated through the ice field, I noticed a blind man coming my way to walk through the same area. I thought:

    "Oh crap, this guy is going to have a terrible time."

    So I helped him get through the ice patches safely. He was sincerely grateful for my help. Not only that, a group of girls noticed what I was doing, and their respect for me as someone who can take some time out of his day to assist those in need shot up.

    Be wary about doing this though. Be nice, but don't be a pushover either. When I caught on that a girl was using me for help with her calculus, I slammed my foot down and told her that I would not be used. She would not talk to me for months, but she did eventually apologize for what she did to me. You always need to show others that you are a gentleman who is able to stand up for himself.

    Building Connections
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    With all of the right techniques, it's easy to become a the top honcho of a single group. However, being the top honcho of a single group won't take you very far when it comes to interacting with other groups.

    That's where building connections comes into play.

    The best way to build connections is to go out and meet people. Get to know different sorts of people, and get onto a good basis with all of them. If they have their own groups, try to get to know them as well.

    There are several benefits to doing this.

    First off, it increases your reputation, simply because more people know you. When it comes to reputation, quantity is a really good thing. Quality is also important, because you don't want to be known as the town fool or your city's number one jackass.

    Having connections also allows you to assimilate into events easier. If you're at a party, and you already know five of the people there, while the guy next to you only knows one, he will identify you immediately as a man of power. Women who also see you as being able to easily get around the place will want to be with you. They do this because they know that you know where the party is.

    Rep Power
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    More often than not, it helps to have a powerful reputation on the scene. Of course, as you are just starting to be an Alpha Male, you don't have much rep power. You are simply a nobody trying to become a somebody. However, the more successes you have, the greater your rep becomes.

    Have you ever seen Rock of Ages? In the movie, there is a mega rock star by the name of Stacee Jaxx. Stacee has a reputation that ranks on an atomic level of awesomeness. Because of this, women faint and lose all sexual control when they are around him.

    As absurd as it looks in the movie, this is almost the case for real life. Of course you won't have women running up to you and making out with you the moment they see you, but they will recognize you. When they do, they will instantly build up a desire to want to be with you. They know that you are hot stuff, thus they want a piece of that just for bragging rights.

    Tell me, which one looks like it is more likely to get you the girl from another Alpha Male or any man at that matter?

    Girl Thought 1: "Oh, it's Swagman. That's nice."
    Girl Thought 2: "Holy Barracuda Batman! It's Swagman!!!!"

    Fun Time Takedown
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    Suppose you were in the shoes of the Shopko worker mentioned earlier. Either that, or suppose you were in a deadlock with another Alpha Male. How would you go about with breaking him down and getting the girl in the end?

    Simple. Splice your attention.

    Begin to not only focus on the man you are challenging, but the woman as well. As you are conversing with the man, drop subtle IOIs towards the girl. Another big thing here is to build interest and jealousy.

    For Example:

    Him: So what have you been up to tonight bro?
    Me: Well, you wouldn't believe the night I've had. So [insert long, lengthy, crazy story here]

    See what you did there? If you are familiar with other pickup artist techniques, you would recognize this as building jealousy and regret within a girl who rejected your plans, only this time around it is being used for a different purpose. The main goal of doing this is to make yourself appear more attractive to the girl. She will begin to see you as someone she can have a great time with, and thus this will build up your value big time.

    The other part to this is downplaying his exciting moments or one-upping them. Here's an example of what I'm talking about:

    Him: "Yea dude, I was going so reckless, like I was driving 80 miles down the interstate."
    Me: "Wow man, that's crazy. At least you play it safer than that guy who almost hit me going 100."

    This dlv-NEG fusion can deliver a powerful one-two to the competing man's prestige. With the way the example is set up, it not only makes his speeding stunt look like nothing but dangerous and stupid shenanigans, but it makes me a safer and more interesting option. I had a near death experience with a man who is more reckless than he is. She's definitely going to want to figure that out, which now makes you the most interesting man in the conversation.

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    I hope this latest addition to the guide helps you in answering your questions and becoming a better Alpha Male. If you have any other questions, feel free to post them. I would be more than happy to answer them and clear up any confusion.
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    Default Re: Being the Alpha Male

    thankyou soooo much!!!! its great that someone finaly posted a thread about dealing with amogs (one of my weak points in my game)

    can you elaborate on the "turn the tables" circumstance? how do i turn the tables on guys who have amogged me on multiple occasions already? or on guys who are trying to turn the tables on me who i've known for a while?
    thanx again,
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    Default Re: Being the Alpha Male: Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Swagman View Post

    The other part to this is downplaying his exciting moments or one-upping them. Here's an example of what I'm talking about:

    Him: "Yea dude, I was going so reckless, like I was driving 80 miles down the interstate."
    Me: "Wow man, that's crazy. At least you play it safer than that guy who almost hit me going 100."

    This dlv-NEG fusion can deliver a powerful one-two to the competing man's prestige. With the way the example is set up, it not only makes his speeding stunt look like nothing but dangerous and stupid shenanigans, but it makes me a safer and more interesting option. I had a near death experience with a man who is more reckless than he is. She's definitely going to want to figure that out, which now makes you the most interesting man in the conversation.
    That, my friend, is fantastic. I don't get AMOGed often and handle myself pretty well if I do, but this is something I'll be keeping in the back of my mind when it comes up. You can never be too prepared Kudos!
    Always leave her better than you found her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicodin24 View Post
    That, my friend, is fantastic. I don't get AMOGed often and handle myself pretty well if I do, but this is something I'll be keeping in the back of my mind when it comes up. You can never be too prepared Kudos!
    Thanks! I always maintain the same mentality when it comes to any type of situation. I always like to be prepared.

    Quote Originally Posted by meteora View Post
    can you elaborate on the "turn the tables" circumstance? how do i turn the tables on guys who have amogged me on multiple occasions already? or on guys who are trying to turn the tables on me who i've known for a while?
    Sure thing Meteora, I'll go into a little more depth on it.

    When you turn the tables on somebody, your main goal is to establish yourself as the more interesting man. If you already have a high rep, it's easier to do. As I set out in Part 2, you should aim to hit him with DLVs and negs while increasing your own value in your target's eyes.

    The best thing about establishing yourself as an Alpha Male against someone you already know is that you already know what kind of questions to ask him in order to effectively take him down. However, it can also be your disadvantage because he already knows info on you too. If he hits you with anything, downplay it and try to make him stumble.

    When approaching an Alpha Male you have tangled with before, the same principles apply. You will have one advantage, and that's his overconfidence. He believes that because he has taken you down before, he can do it again. However, he's not expecting anything crafty from you. Just do the same as before: hit him with DLVs and NEGs and give yourself a few DHVs. If he hits you with any DLVs or NEGs, brush them off as if they were nothing.

    Do all of that with a cool head, and you'll be set to take them down.
    "There is no better than adversity. Every defeat, every heartbreak, every loss, contains its own seed, its own lesson on how to improve your performance the next time." - Malcolm X

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    Default Re: Being the Alpha Male

    Excellent post Swagman, that helps a lot. It sounds like my gameplan would look something like this: open with kindness, focus on the AMOG at first and then slowly shift focus to my target, and dlv him by downplaying his attempts at DHVs, to lower the girl's interest in him and up her interest in me until I can attempt to Isolate. Sound about right?


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