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Thread: The hazards of autopilot.

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    Default The hazards of autopilot.

    Hey aspiring PUAs. I've mainly contributed through responding in posts, but I believe it is about time for me to make a thread to help out all of you guys, so here it is:

    When you perform any activity: tennis, golf, cooking, dancing, playing videogames, driving or even sarging, there are two ways to approach the situation.

    A. You can have fun at it and just do what your body naturally tells you to do so.
    • For Instance:
    • When cooking, one would just follow the recipe without really paying attention to what the adjustments actually do. Just blindly putting in the ingredients in the pan like a todler puts his toy blocks back in his basket
    • When driving, you could half concentrate on the road and be half asleep, going when the light turns green, not even bothering to improve your mileage or your preventive measures.
    • When playing video games, you don't notice your mistakes and false judgments or assumptions. You just play for fun. If you die, no big deal, just try the mission again
    • When sarging, you just expect yourself to be a natural. You open up with whatever (openers dont really matter anyways), and proceed to just have a normal discussion. No actual attempts to see what stage youre in, no trying to control the frame or qualify. You just expect youll do these things naturally. youre just relying on what youve learned before, and hope that you will naturally pick her up.


    B. You can activly control yourself and be aware of all of your surroundings, and to see what each of your actions cause.

    This is active learning, not autopilot. People work this way when they learn something for a class or job, or when they try to improve in somethingUnless you master pickup, or you have met your goal, this is the type of way you are supposed to approach pickup. When sarging, always be aware of what you say, what youre supposed to say how you say it, how your body language is, how they react, and how you can do better. This being said, dont be inside your head. You need to be in the moment. However, just turning on autopilot will not improve you at all

    In sport games or video games, it has been proven that 1 match actively paying attention to what you are doing is worth more than 10 matches just following the ball/objective and trying to just relax and play without the active need of improving your skills.

    So, what I came here to tell you guys, is that it is important that you dont fall into the trap of autopilot. It may seem very appealing because youll be having alot of fun just chatting to these HBs that before you were way too afraid to interact with. But it is LOADS more fun to see how you improve and use all of the very situational techniques you learn in action. It is very important that when you sarge, you do so actively to improve.

    Thanks for reading, and happy sarging

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    Default Re: The hazards of autopilot.

    I know what you're saying, but I find that that does not work for me. When I very first started PUA, I read a whole bunch of Mystery's material, about Indirect Game and all these little 'keys' that I could say to unlock any chick's pants. I would approach sets with little/no confidence but, with a whole lot of stuff to say. Looking back on it, it probably would not have given anyone pleasure to be around me while I was sarging because everything that I said was calculated. A HB7 once told me (5 minutes after I met her) that everything I said sounded like a script, and truthfully, it was. I knew at this moment that something had to change.

    I decided to focus my attention inward, and began reading a LOT about Direct Game. With more and more practice, I learn't that it doesn't necessarily matter what I say, just the manner of which I say it. For this reason, I decided to stop using scripts (okay, a lot less scripts ). Instant improvement- I started having fun. I made a decision to go into 'autopilot', and all of a sudden, PUA was fun. And when you're having fun people around you start to have fun.

    There are only a couple of times that I think about PUA while sarging:

    Pre-sarge- It helps to work out your frame before you go out. Personally, I like to tell myself that I'm just out to have fun and that everything I do throughout the course of whatever I'm doing will be directed to that goal.

    Decision Time- I make a quick decision about what I want, and then tell people about it the way an Alpha would: with confidence and belief that it is the correct choice.

    Texting- I've always sucked at texting so I consciously use a lot more PUA techniques in order to compensate. Even then, I don't say anything that I'm not congruent with, and I try to let my personality shine through.

    Story-telling- I tell a fair few stories about people I've met and places I've been. And, I'll admit, I say the same words each time I tell them. But, I never sound scripted. This is because I will tell them a different way to each person, and they are actual experiences I've had (slightly exaggerated in some cases). I'm 100% congruent.

    Post-Sarge- I think that this is the most important time to think about PUA. This is when we need to reflect on the positives and the negatives of our game, so that when we are next in the field, we will make the improvement without thinking.

    Thinking about PUA at only these points helps me keep the conversation natural, flowing and fun for both parties. And when you RELAX, at lot more desirable facets of your personality begin to emerge.

    Take it easy,
    Nova

    "It ain't about how hard you can hit. It's about how hard you can be hit and keep moving forward"

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    Default Re: The hazards of autopilot.

    I have to disagree with auto-piloting being bad, unless you are a consistent Pua that gets f-closes consistently, and can easily close any HB he wants.

    When you're improving and learning in any field, you need to go in zones where you are not comfortable with, trying new things, breaking your limits. Auto-piloting just allows you to do what you're comfortable with.

    This is quoted from Neil Strauss' book The Rules of the Game

    "The psychological field of neurolinguistic programming (NLP) offers a useful four-step model of how the mind learns. It can serve as a yardstick to measure your progress.
    • Unconscious incompetence: You're doing something wrong, and you dont even know youre doing it wrong
    • Conscious incompetence: You're doing something wrong, and you're aware that you're doing it wrong, but you haven't yet fixed the problem.
    • Conscious competence: You've learned the right way to do it, and you're doing it correctly with focused attention.
    • Unconscious competence: You no longer have to thing about something or work on learning it-you automatically do it correctly. In the parlance of the game, this is when you finally become a so-called natural." (70).


    In other words, autopilot only works if you are a natural. Most likely, if you just act without thinking, you're bound to be unconsciously incompetent. If you are aware of what you're doing, but you still keep on "auto-piloting", the best you can be is consciously incompetent.

    Of course, two main factors of the game is the "rule of least effort" (trying least) to make them chase you. When you focus on your game, it can detract from your supposedly "uninterested, hard to get" appearance. However, the best way to learn is to be Consciencely competent.

    After all, the skills of a PUA are those of escalation. During opener, you become from a stranger to a somewhat trusted person that is safe to talk to. When you complete attraction, you become from a "nobody" to a person who is interesting and fun to be with. When you're done with qualification or comfort, you escalate your relationship from someone fun to be with to someone who she wants to sleep with.

    Kino Escalation/ sexual escalation is not nearly the only thing we "escalate".


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