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    Default Re: BatMan: Dance Game Debunked

    Batman! I worked on my dance game a bit this weekend with great results. I ended up in Panama City Fl, for work and its spring break down there sooo tons of chicks. I went into this club, talked up these two chicks and was like lets go dance. Grabbed her hand and led her out. It was on, danced for like 2 songs then I smelled her neck and hair. I didnt sneak it, I made it obvious and told her she smelled amazing. She turned her head around to look at me to respond (at this point I was grinding from behind) and I grabbed her and kissed her. Game on.

    I need to re-read your guide and tune up my skills but you weren't lying the dance game is money. It really took minimal effort.

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    Default Re: BatMan: Dance Game Debunked

    Quote Originally Posted by Apulse Refield View Post
    When you mention smelling her hair are you grinding with her at this point? Are you facing her?
    I've done it before while grinding behind her. But it's just better to face her and grind while smelling her hair. Easier to look into the eyes also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meteora View Post
    these girls didn't seem very comfortable when i ran it on them, i may have used too much eye contact, but neither girl would really look me in the eyes when i went for the kiss. one of them was compliant enough to walk with me to a quieter area of the club (holding hands) and i felt like i had at least some level of compliance with both girls. though we didn't talk much because of how loud the club was.
    to be honest i think my game was off a little and maybe it would work better if i had used better catstring :/ whatever the case i will keep working on it till i can get k-closes with it or with some adaptation of it.
    It took me months of figuring this stuff out by myself. There is no book or guide on dance game so it was sort of uncharted territory. If you have a wing show him this guide and have him critique you. I know not all women will go for it, but to have every single one back to back not be into it must mean something is off. But don't worry, you'll get there with more practice and it will click.
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    Default Re: BatMan: Dance Game Debunked

    Quote Originally Posted by Flyboy86 View Post
    Batman! I worked on my dance game a bit this weekend with great results. I ended up in Panama City Fl, for work and its spring break down there sooo tons of chicks. I went into this club, talked up these two chicks and was like lets go dance. Grabbed her hand and led her out. It was on, danced for like 2 songs then I smelled her neck and hair. I didnt sneak it, I made it obvious and told her she smelled amazing. She turned her head around to look at me to respond (at this point I was grinding from behind) and I grabbed her and kissed her. Game on.

    I need to re-read your guide and tune up my skills but you weren't lying the dance game is money. It really took minimal effort.
    Nice man!! So awesome it helped ya out. I really like how simple it is to build sexual Tension without talking to her. Not that I don't like to have a good convo lol, but you don't have to worry about the convo going stale. I like efficiency and shaving off unnecessary parts of game.
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    Default Re: BatMan: Dance Game Debunked

    Quote Originally Posted by BatMan View Post
    Awhile ago, when I first began my PUA journey, I read about how the dancefloor is a deathtrap. Well I'm here to tell you that it...is...not.
    I spent years developing my PUA skills and through my experience I asked a reasonably simple question. Why can't I use pickup on the dancefloor? I mean...women come out to these things to DANCE. Not just drink, hang with the girls and, (if desired) meet guys. So why not use pickup during this situation where they get the most enjoyment out of their night?

    I had a friend who I had first learned the power of seductive dance from. He helped me, indirectly, create the foundation that was to be my dance game. He could pull any woman on the dancefloor and actually makeout with them without one single conversation. Except he could never take them home. That was his sticking point. Which is a whole other story. So I had to figure out how he pulled it off. And make it better.

    For over a year I slowly tweaked my dancing skills to see how far I could push. Applying basic PUA concepts and using them in my dance. I wanted to see how far I could get with a woman with just dancing, on a consistent basis. And I like to think that I have finally come upon the holy grail of what is Dance Game. Hopefully this will help you, my friends. Let me know what you think.

    Rule #1: Use Push/Pull
    This is a very common PUA concept, but not really put into the context of dancing. If you are familiar or skilled with push/pull this will be obvious to you, but maybe not so obvious when it comes to using it for dancing.
    There is a cycle you have to use. You rotate between pulling her close to you then pushing her away. With every pull you get closer to her than you did last time.

    Pull:
    1st Pull: Start by looking into her eyes and smiling while there is space between you two. Then move your bodies closer.

    2nd Pull: Work on getting your cheek onto her cheek (on the face you weirdo). You also want to hold her. NOT place your hand on her waist. But GRAB her firmly, not tightly. This will prepare her to follow your lead through dancing which will also help lead to that kiss.

    3rd Pull: Here you want to graze your nose against her neck. So she knows you are smelling her. You are going to throw out the soundbite "You smell nice." (more on those later)

    4th Pull: Now you want to put your forehead onto hers. Look into her eyes if you can. Once that is done move your mouth to the side of her cheek almost touching the edge of her lips. Now you want to lightly brush your lips right next to her mouth.

    5th Pull: And finally the magic. You, again, lightly brush your lips against hers. This is such a tease that if she doesn't kiss you then, she will definitely let you the next time you swing those lips back around. So just GO FOR IT!!

    Push:
    In between each pull you have to push. This builds the tension while you are dancing so that the next time you go back in you will be able to get closer to her. So when you graze your nose on her neck and tell her she smells nice, you push her away. When you come back in again you then work to move your forehead onto hers. Get it? Good.

    The way you push is just as important. One tip I actually got from a female friend of mine. She told me that if I pushed her away like I got a boner and had to calm down that it would drive her crazy. Now, that doesn't mean you grab your crotch in order to hide said boner that actually is there or not. What it means is that you have to look like your losing your cool. That she is AFFECTING YOUR GAME.

    You do this by blowing air when you push her away. A simple "whew" will suffice. You can even add in "I need a min." The other favorite of mine is waving my finger at her as if saying "No no no. Your charm won't work on me." This implies that SHE is the one gaming US with her provocative dancing.

    A push could also be used to grab a drink. Either with or without her. Use your best judgment for that call. If she's totally into you and about to tear your clothes off, then don't be a jerk and buy her a drink! So walk away and tell her you will be back for her. This is more leading and compliance which is what you want. Rinse and repeat everything in this section. This is more of a guideline. You should always feel free to mix things up once you get comfortable with these techniques.

    Also, watch the eyes. They never lie. You will get used to it over time. If she looks at you she is comfortable. If she looks at your lips then she's ready. If she looks away then she may have a bf. If she looks at her friends then she is either doing a bet or trying to make her guy friend jealous. Yes it did happen to me once. But don't single anything out. If she is not looking at you that doesn't mean she won't later. Just use it as a general guide.

    Rule #2: Never Battle
    This is a simple, yet effective tool. It got to a point where I wasn't just being complimented on my dancing from strangers, but I also had guys coming up to BATTLE me. Like I just got into a role in You Got Served! DO NOT fall for this trap. If you enter into a battle then you are no better than a standup comedian putting on a show. You have become the dancing monkey.

    There will always be better dancers. I am definitely not the best. But the WAY I do it by using these techniques gets me way more women than any breakdancer who spins on his head for everyone. If you are challenged by a break dancer, simply egg him on to put on a solo performance and cheer for him like the rest. While he does his dance tricks you could be gaming the girl next to you. Maybe his girl. 0

    Rule #3: Use Soundbites
    Have you ever danced with a woman and tried to ask her 2-3 questions that she just couldn't hear? That is just nails on a chalkboard to me. She is there to dance, not talk and get to know you (At least not yet). I found the best way to talk is to use soundbites. These are essentially short sentences about things you observe. Whether it be the weird chain she has around her neck or the creepy guy sneaking up behind girls to try and dance with them. By the way, DON'T EVER DO THAT. Use short sentences and hand movements to talk with her.

    You can even ask them very simple questions such as "Hold old are you?" "Whats your name?" and "Top or bottom?" I'm kidding about the last question. These can seem very uncreative at first, but in an environment of loud music and dancing, these are golden.

    If she begins asking YOU too many questions that break the soundbites rule then take it as she is ready for a full blown conversation with you and Isolate her.

    Rule #4: Have fun!
    Be playful, humorous, high energy. These things are contagious for women on the dance floor. It also makes it easier when you do your approach. If they see you as a social guy who just goes and does what he wants she will NOT refuse you as long as she observed your behavior. You can literally go up to her and grab her hand. I have some opener tips for dancing, but this post has already become longer than intended. I guess there's always something to say.

    As a bonus, here's a quick list of dance techniques I use. They are generally not hard to learn and you can find dozens of video tutorials on Youtube. Also, I need to mention that I have never had more women literally run up to me than when I did basic salsa step.

    -Basic salsa, merengue, bachata.
    -Ticking
    -Strobing
    -Tutting (still amateur myself)
    This might seem obvious or a newbie question because no one has asked it, but I'm seriously wondering... how long should each push/pull last? Like, if I were smelling a girls' neck/hair, I would imagine it would only happen for like 10 seconds tops, then immediately push away. And how long does the push last before the next pull? 5 minutes? 30 seconds? Would you want to be dancing off by yourself, not even making eye contact during the push phase?

    I've taken "Rueda de Casino" salsa lessons, and feel pretty confident using some of the stuff I learned there with this technique since the basic step is push-pull movements over and over. I just feel like I wouldn't know when to pull back in after the pushes and when to push again after the pulls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speech View Post
    This might seem obvious or a newbie question because no one has asked it, but I'm seriously wondering... how long should each push/pull last? Like, if I were smelling a girls' neck/hair, I would imagine it would only happen for like 10 seconds tops, then immediately push away. And how long does the push last before the next pull? 5 minutes? 30 seconds? Would you want to be dancing off by yourself, not even making eye contact during the push phase?

    I've taken "Rueda de Casino" salsa lessons, and feel pretty confident using some of the stuff I learned there with this technique since the basic step is Push-Pull movements over and over. I just feel like I wouldn't know when to pull back in after the pushes and when to push again after the pulls.
    For me, the pushes and pulls are short while dancing. Almost immediately after I smell her neck for a few seconds do I push her away right after. Almost like I have to "catch my breath." I'm trying to give an affect that SHE is seducing ME by her provocative nature. And that if she keeps going I will not be able to control myself around her. Sometimes I'll get really REALLY close to her and embrace her. Like doing the dirty right on the dance floor. Then I'll immediately back away completely so she feels that rush of cold air because my body left hers. Balance it out. The closer you get, the further you have to back away before coming back in again.

    As for walking away to get a drink those can last 10-15 min. But while dancing they are fairly short.
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    Default Re: BatMan: Dance Game Debunked

    This guide is right on target. I had learned as an AFC the power of dancing at a young age. I really like dancing so sometimes i dont even care if i have a partner. Many times i would ask a girl to dance and she would say no. So i said screw it and asked the next girl. Eventually, i would find any of the prettier girls who turned me down hovering with their friends on the floor around me. And from there it was easy to game them. All of Batman's techniques are gold for that!

    Eventually i realized that i could just say "dance with me" to a girl and because i didnt care WHO i danced with, i said it with a confident, could-care-less attitude and many girls would accept right off the bat.
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    Default Re: BatMan: Dance Game Debunked

    Quote Originally Posted by BatMan View Post
    2nd Pull: Work on getting your cheek onto her cheek (on the face you weirdo). You also want to hold her. NOT place your hand on her waist. But GRAB her firmly, not tightly. This will prepare her to follow your lead through dancing which will also help lead to that kiss.
    Dumb question, but what do you mean by hold her, but not put your hand on her waist? Hold her similar to a hug? or put both hands on her waist and hold her that way?

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    Default Re: BatMan: Dance Game Debunked

    Quote Originally Posted by Student88 View Post
    Dumb question, but what do you mean by hold her, but not put your hand on her waist? Hold her similar to a hug? or put both hands on her waist and hold her that way?
    Usually on her shoulder while your other hand holds hers up. Like a salsa position. Putting your hands on her waist can be progressed to afterwards.
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    Default Re: BatMan: Dance Game Debunked

    Also in merengue a guy puts his right hand under the girls left shoulder blade while his left hand holds her right hand.
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