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    Default BatMan: Dance Game Debunked

    Awhile ago, when I first began my PUA journey, I read about how the dancefloor is a deathtrap. Well I'm here to tell you that it...is...not.
    I spent years developing my PUA skills and through my experience I asked a reasonably simple question. Why can't I use pickup on the dancefloor? I mean...women come out to these things to DANCE. Not just drink, hang with the girls and, (if desired) meet guys. So why not use pickup during this situation where they get the most enjoyment out of their night?

    I had a friend who I had first learned the power of seductive dance from. He helped me, indirectly, create the foundation that was to be my dance game. He could pull any woman on the dancefloor and actually makeout with them without one single conversation. Except he could never take them home. That was his sticking point. Which is a whole other story. So I had to figure out how he pulled it off. And make it better.

    For over a year I slowly tweaked my dancing skills to see how far I could push. Applying basic PUA concepts and using them in my dance. I wanted to see how far I could get with a woman with just dancing, on a consistent basis. And I like to think that I have finally come upon the holy grail of what is Dance Game. Hopefully this will help you, my friends. Let me know what you think.

    Rule #1: Use Push/Pull
    This is a very common PUA concept, but not really put into the context of dancing. If you are familiar or skilled with push/pull this will be obvious to you, but maybe not so obvious when it comes to using it for dancing.
    There is a cycle you have to use. You rotate between pulling her close to you then pushing her away. With every pull you get closer to her than you did last time.

    Pull:
    1st Pull: Start by looking into her eyes and smiling while there is space between you two. Then move your bodies closer.

    2nd Pull: Work on getting your cheek onto her cheek (on the face you weirdo). You also want to hold her. NOT place your hand on her waist. But GRAB her firmly, not tightly. This will prepare her to follow your lead through dancing which will also help lead to that kiss.

    3rd Pull: Here you want to graze your nose against her neck. So she knows you are smelling her. You are going to throw out the soundbite "You smell nice." (more on those later)

    4th Pull: Now you want to put your forehead onto hers. Look into her eyes if you can. Once that is done move your mouth to the side of her cheek almost touching the edge of her lips. Now you want to lightly brush your lips right next to her mouth.

    5th Pull: And finally the magic. You, again, lightly brush your lips against hers. This is such a tease that if she doesn't kiss you then, she will definitely let you the next time you swing those lips back around. So just GO FOR IT!!

    Push:
    In between each pull you have to push. This builds the tension while you are dancing so that the next time you go back in you will be able to get closer to her. So when you graze your nose on her neck and tell her she smells nice, you push her away. When you come back in again you then work to move your forehead onto hers. Get it? Good.

    The way you push is just as important. One tip I actually got from a female friend of mine. She told me that if I pushed her away like I got a boner and had to calm down that it would drive her crazy. Now, that doesn't mean you grab your crotch in order to hide said boner that actually is there or not. What it means is that you have to look like your losing your cool. That she is AFFECTING YOUR GAME.

    You do this by blowing air when you push her away. A simple "whew" will suffice. You can even add in "I need a min." The other favorite of mine is waving my finger at her as if saying "No no no. Your charm won't work on me." This implies that SHE is the one gaming US with her provocative dancing.

    A push could also be used to grab a drink. Either with or without her. Use your best judgment for that call. If she's totally into you and about to tear your clothes off, then don't be a jerk and buy her a drink! So walk away and tell her you will be back for her. This is more leading and compliance which is what you want. Rinse and repeat everything in this section. This is more of a guideline. You should always feel free to mix things up once you get comfortable with these techniques.

    Also, watch the eyes. They never lie. You will get used to it over time. If she looks at you she is comfortable. If she looks at your lips then she's ready. If she looks away then she may have a bf. If she looks at her friends then she is either doing a bet or trying to make her guy friend jealous. Yes it did happen to me once. But don't single anything out. If she is not looking at you that doesn't mean she won't later. Just use it as a general guide.

    Rule #2: Never Battle
    This is a simple, yet effective tool. It got to a point where I wasn't just being complimented on my dancing from strangers, but I also had guys coming up to BATTLE me. Like I just got into a role in You Got Served! DO NOT fall for this trap. If you enter into a battle then you are no better than a standup comedian putting on a show. You have become the dancing monkey.

    There will always be better dancers. I am definitely not the best. But the WAY I do it by using these techniques gets me way more women than any breakdancer who spins on his head for everyone. If you are challenged by a break dancer, simply egg him on to put on a solo performance and cheer for him like the rest. While he does his dance tricks you could be gaming the girl next to you. Maybe his girl. 0

    Rule #3: Use Soundbites
    Have you ever danced with a woman and tried to ask her 2-3 questions that she just couldn't hear? That is just nails on a chalkboard to me. She is there to dance, not talk and get to know you (At least not yet). I found the best way to talk is to use soundbites. These are essentially short sentences about things you observe. Whether it be the weird chain she has around her neck or the creepy guy sneaking up behind girls to try and dance with them. By the way, DON'T EVER DO THAT. Use short sentences and hand movements to talk with her.

    You can even ask them very simple questions such as "Hold old are you?" "Whats your name?" and "Top or bottom?" I'm kidding about the last question. These can seem very uncreative at first, but in an environment of loud music and dancing, these are golden.

    If she begins asking YOU too many questions that break the soundbites rule then take it as she is ready for a full blown conversation with you and Isolate her.

    Rule #4: Have fun!
    Be playful, humorous, high energy. These things are contagious for women on the dance floor. It also makes it easier when you do your approach. If they see you as a social guy who just goes and does what he wants she will NOT refuse you as long as she observed your behavior. You can literally go up to her and grab her hand. I have some opener tips for dancing, but this post has already become longer than intended. I guess there's always something to say.

    As a bonus, here's a quick list of dance techniques I use. They are generally not hard to learn and you can find dozens of video tutorials on Youtube. Also, I need to mention that I have never had more women literally run up to me than when I did basic salsa step.

    -Basic salsa, merengue, bachata.
    -Ticking
    -Strobing
    -Tutting (still amateur myself)
    "All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."

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    Default Re: BatMan: Dance Game Debunked

    Awesome guide couple of things, how crowded are the dance floors where u game? The clubs in my city ATM are so packed on a decent night you can hardly move on the dance floor, makes it real hard to approach on the dance floor as you have to kinda force your way over to them, stops it being as smooth as I'd like :/ any tips?

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    Default Re: BatMan: Dance Game Debunked

    I also have some success on the dance floor. If there is an older woman or group of older women, I ALWAYS walk right up to them and start dancing with them, not only does this get attention on yourself 9in a good way if you're a good dancer) but it gets the girl you actually want to dance with get to feel comfortable with you. I NEVER EVER run up behind a girl and start grinding them, just my personal preference, as I have seen guys do this, but rarely does it end with more than just a dance. My biggest issue is getting the girls I want to dance with to seperate from their friends and come dance with me. I'm going to just grab their hands and take them with me the next time I go out and I will let you gents know how it turns out.

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    Default Re: BatMan: Dance Game Debunked

    Linking....I hear you with that, there's always over-crowded dance floors around where I live as well and there's ALWAYS people walking RIGHT through them to get to the bar, or outside etc..(its a huge pain) What I do is I try to go as close to the Dj booth as possible and take up space....Ill start off dancing alone, because I am a good dancer (not the best) but I do have people on an ightly basis come form a circle and try to battle me and I ALWAYS get compliments (unfortunatly mostly from dudes) If a girl sees that you are a good dancer, she will WANT to dance with you. Girls will always see me dancing, then grab one of their friends and start dancing near me. The trouble is, at least where I live is the girls are always in packs...grinding on each other etc.. it makes it difficult to seperate them from each other. My advice, let them notice you, then grab their hand and make them come to you. Happy hunting.


    Any one else have any suggestions on how to seperate the girls from each other and get them to dance with you instead of each other?

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    Default Re: BatMan: Dance Game Debunked

    I hate crowded dance floors > But when there is one I'll usually already have someone to dance with. If I'm trying to dance with a woman already on the floor, and let's say, on the other side of the floor, then the easiest thing is to look for the eyes. It'll not just let you know that she wants to be approached, but wants YOU to approach her. It will be difficult to push her away, but the pull is obviously easy since you'll be close to each other. Just use the same pull techniques and when you get a chance make yourself some room in the crowd. Sometimes I like to be funny and make large circles with my arms as if saying "This is my personal space."

    Still though, it's not fun dancing where it is heavily crowded and trying to move every 2 min for people leaving/coming to the dance floor while others keep pushing into you. No fun at all and probably not fun for her. So you can always dance off the floor and along the edge for more moving ability.
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    Default Re: BatMan: Dance Game Debunked

    Yeah, once I get past the approach on a dance floor I hardly ever have a problem getting a k close......it's just the approach that causes issues lol, definitely the hardest place in a club to approach.

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    Default Re: BatMan: Dance Game Debunked

    Most of the time I rely on social proof for the approach. That way it's almost like they would be RUDE for not following my lead when I go up to them. I've actually been told I'm intimidating. And I don't Peacock. (at least not anymore lol) But without social proof you still have the eyes and can always dance by yourself for a bit before looking like a loser lol. Oh and ALWAYS have a smile. When I first started I was told I looked too serious while dancing which added to the intimidation.
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    Default Re: BatMan: Dance Game Debunked

    Yeah, i prefer it on the dance floor if I'm with female friends, so much easier to get girls that way lol

    Linking x

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    Default Re: BatMan: Dance Game Debunked

    just one quick question for batman, when you use your "push" how do you keep from awekwardly numping into the girl? i assume this is for fast dancing?

    when i run dance game i like to take both of the girls hands and swing her arms around in my own sort of style of dancing, i then use that contact with the hands to pull her in or push her away.

    i will try your technique next time i'm out

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    Default Re: BatMan: Dance Game Debunked

    Quote Originally Posted by meteora View Post
    just one quick question for batman, when you use your "push" how do you keep from awekwardly numping into the girl? i assume this is for fast dancing?

    when i run dance game i like to take both of the girls hands and swing her arms around in my own sort of style of dancing, i then use that contact with the hands to pull her in or push her away.

    i will try your technique next time i'm out
    Not sure what you mean when you say bumping into her. But what I do, in order to separate, is step back away from her or push her away by pressing my palms against hers. Smoothly of course. Don't knock her over! Lol
    "All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."


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