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Thread: I Always Let Conversations Go STALE!!!

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    Exclamation I Always Let Conversations Go STALE!!!

    I created this account just now because I need all the advice I can get on this sticking point. I got over Approach Anxiety and can engage sets I open quite well at first, but it seems like the conversation always goes stale quickly after my initial opener/dhv and my mind blanks on what routine or topic to bring up. Either that or I try to keep the convo going and it gets uninteresting, or I bring up a new topic/routine and the sets show no interest or walk away immediately.

    I think a big part of my problem is that I feel weird bringing up new conversation topics out of nowhere. It feels unnatural and forced to me, like I have the limiting belief that each topic needs to flow to the next one completely organically or else it will become obvious I have some ulterior motive.

    Can anyone give me insight on this? How do you guys smoothly transition between subjects or stack routines so it seems like you're not even planning it out?

    Thanks a heap.

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    Default Re: I Always Let Conversations Go STALE!!!

    I get what you mean about the lack of transitions. I mainly focus on the underlying emotions of it all. What is she feeling and what do I want her to feel. And it's not all about putting on a show like a standup comedian. People like to talk to. So ask them about themselves. Being interested makes you interesting. To make it smoother make sure to pick out nouns in their responses to you and build off of that.
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    Default Re: I Always Let Conversations Go STALE!!!

    Batman just nailed one thing and he should have underlined it .

    "Pick out NOUNS" and bounce off of that.... I've never heard it stated like that, but I really focused on doing that because when I first started a few years back, transitioning and subsequent attraction via conversation was also hellishly hard for me.

    I got into this habit (which worked for me), of constantly responding with a NOUN + solid (but non offensive) opinion + reversal question.

    For example:

    You notice a girl who has a tattoo and just casually poke it and say "what's that stand for". Then she says something "it represents friendship and karma" or some weird shit that girls say. I'd say "Oh. I believed in that once, but I never seemed to get in trouble from killing all those little kittens when I was a kid, so I stopped believing. How did you wind up convincing yourself to get a tattoo?"

    So my angle here is to get her to start talking about an emotion or a feeling ALWAYS. In this case she would talk about pain and fear. Probably a bad example, but once you open the door to feelings and emotion, you are free to literally talk about any tengental topic. Like in day game, you could start talking about deeper stuff. Whereas at a club, you could start talking about if it hurt when she got her inner-thigh tattoo (just assume she has one, even if she doesn't, and tease her about it).
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    Default Re: I Always Let Conversations Go STALE!!!

    Thanks guys very helpful. Love the noun + opinion + reversal idea. Way out of my comfort zone to work on this stuff but I guess that's a sign that I need to work on it most.

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    Default Re: I Always Let Conversations Go STALE!!!

    might i add to the great advice these guys have already given.


    if convorsation starts going stale, either cut the convo or use some well placed questions to get the girl talking about herself.

    there is nothing wrong with giving an ftc getting the girls number and leaving the convo when it starts getting stale.

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    Default Re: I Always Let Conversations Go STALE!!!

    This is awesome advice that I would not find anywhere else, and I'd like to add to meteora's advice..

    Quote Originally Posted by meteora View Post
    might i add to the great advice these guys have already given.


    if convorsation starts going stale, either cut the convo or use some well placed questions to get the girl talking about herself.

    there is nothing wrong with giving an ftc getting the girls number and leaving the convo when it starts getting stale.
    You always want to eject on a high note; just like meteora said about cutting the convo once it starts going stale. The last impression is a lasting impression, I think, and that will be how she feels about you the next time she talk to you and sees you. Awesome advice all around
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    Default Re: I Always Let Conversations Go STALE!!!

    Cool, that makes a lot of sense. I want to at least make enough conversation to dhv and reach the hook point before getting the number and cutting off the convo. It makes me wonder if having something witty or clever prepared to say for right before I walk away would be effective. I'll play around with it. Thanks guys.

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    Default Re: I Always Let Conversations Go STALE!!!

    Another thing I can add to this is never let conversations run on for too long. Even if you are having a ball and it is a fun time doing it, NEVER let the conversation go into a marathon. When the conversation is running on high, cut it off. Cutting off the conversation at its high point builds suspense and makes her want to talk to you more. It builds attraction, makes you look less needy, and it's overall the best way to go.
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