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    Question To what extent does the Magic of Push-Pull work?

    Hi, first post on puaforums so any constructive criticism is appreciated!

    I've been having some great luck lately using the Push-Pull tactic once I've opened and I'm in the stage of trying to build attraction. I've used push-pull with three girls in the past few weeks, and 2 of the ended in k-closes. I haven't tried using push-pull to try to get her to the bedroom yet, but we'll see.

    Push-pull is a technique I use to make her want you. Most guys (including myself) try wayyyy too hard. In the past, I would always compliment/flirt/hit on her whenever I had the chance. But I'm learning that while it is good to do those things, it must be done in moderation.

    This is where the "push" portion of "push-pull" comes in. Make her work for YOU. You have to seem disinterested in her occasionally, so that she has to EARN your attention. But don't reward her the first time she tries, this way, she tries even harder (and those who don't try to earn your attention are most likely LJBF). This doesn't mean you aren't assertive, you are ALWAYS assertive. That being said, you have to "pretend" to turn your interest in her "off" until she deserves it. Push-pull can also be applied to kinos.

    Now I've only tried this on girls I knew beforehand, and that I was acquainted to (but not yet in the friendzone). There are plenty of posts on push-pull, but under what circumstances would push-pull not work? Would it be worth trying push-pull on a girl you just met? And how would you do it? I tend to seem disinterested for long periods of time (if I am in a set where my target and I are doing a group activity or in a campus setting). Can push-pull be applied for minutes rather than hours?
    Last edited by Novice; 04-18-2013 at 01:36 AM. Reason: I made a typo

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    Default Re: To what extent does the Magic of Push-Pull work?

    Um well everything about pick up applies to new girls. Thats the purpose of pick up lol.

    There is no time setup for Push Pull. Just remember to show some disinterest, qualify and Kino. Magic!

    And sidenote... kino shows attraction without actually saying anything. Kino while "pushing" is powerful.
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    Default Re: To what extent does the Magic of Push-Pull work?

    One time all I said to a girl was "your eyes are OK" and that all by itself seemed to be enough to make her think of me in a slightly different way(ie a guy who gets women). However, this woman lives several hours from me so the logistics are bad but given other circumstances there would be some heat and we sort of hinted at that and she seems to understand that.

    In all seriousness sometimes you don't have to do much but typically speaking you should do it early on. The earlier the better. Basically it's similar to teasing. In fact much teasing has Push Pull in it. If you didn't like her you wouldn't say anything but you are giving her a hard time but in a fun way. You are showing mild disinterest but in a fun way. Here's an example of one I plan on using but haven't tried out yet "You seem like a really nice girl. I bet you'd make a good friend. Anything more than that though and you'd probably drive me crazy." This makes her want to work for you and prove you wrong. It has to come from a positive place though. If she senses you are pissed off, in a bad mood or have some kind of issues with women it probably won't work and will just come across as you not liking her. The key here is to make it playful and friendly. Most guys just suck up to women all the time and kiss their asses and don't know about this stuff so you'll be light years ahead of the pack. At some point you have to turn it sexual(while still maintaining some of the push/pull elements when possible). This is how you get them in the sack. You can't get them in the sack without physically escalating and without getting sexual at some point.

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    Default Re: To what extent does the Magic of Push-Pull work?

    Push pull is no wax on wax off item use it, calibrate it to your style, each woman reacts different so learn to distinguish the boundaries of not enough and too much.

    Everything in pickup is not objective pass/ fail

    It is a delicate balance of force between yourself and multiple different targets that will all react in equally different ways

    Lastly don't over neg you shouldn't need over three negs and anything under a HB7 I wouldn't neg anyway. There are many other methods that can be used to demonstrate higher value without lowering her self value. This forum has lots of new ideas that I enjoy reading

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    Default Re: To what extent does the Magic of Push-Pull work?

    Quote Originally Posted by hometownextra View Post
    Push pull is no wax on wax off item use it, calibrate it to your style, each woman reacts different so learn to distinguish the boundaries of not enough and too much.

    Everything in pickup is not objective pass/ fail

    It is a delicate balance of force between yourself and multiple different targets that will all react in equally different ways

    Lastly don't over neg you shouldn't need over three negs and anything under a HB7 I wouldn't neg anyway. There are many other methods that can be used. This forum has lots of new ideas that I enjoy reading
    Unless you are just starting out and practicing why even bother approaching anything under a 7 in the first place. With sevens you probably don't need to neg hardly at all and even with 8's you probably don't need to neg much. Sometimes neg is overkill. As soon as you can tell she is into you it's time to stop negging and rely more on push/pull imo. But a lot of it will depend on the individual girl, how nice she is, the environment and how she is dressed. With a woman who is really attractive but down to earth you probably don't need to neg much even if she is super hot.

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    Default Re: To what extent does the Magic of Push-Pull work?

    Agreed. Seems I am way off point, your posts have a lot packed into them. It is the nature of pickup nothing is pass/ fail it all comes down to her perception.

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    Default Re: To what extent does the Magic of Push-Pull work?

    While negs and Push Pull do have some similarities(the push part is sort of a neg in a way depending on how it's done)they are basically two different things.


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