Reading your opening post seemed to be a massive chore. Plus I happen to disagree with quite a lot of it. You can't just talk to a girl for 30 minutes then go for a kiss... That just makes you an overly forward AFC and there is no way you should wait 30 minutes in a club before going for a kiss.
If you are dancing with a girl in a club I have always escalated to kiss in around 5 minutes, 10 if we get a drink first. You don't need to talk much in a club!
Pick-up is personal, each should find their own style that they like. It's about doing what suits your style to make you the best person of yourself you can be. I wouldn't discourage people from reading as I think each person should study a wide variety of texts and decide what they like and what they don't. For instance I don't like NLP or any of the magic trick stuff but that's just me... there are plenty of pua's who are miles better than me that use it.
correct me if I'm wrong but your basic message is the only way to become a true PUA is practice? If so that's correct.
I said 30 minutes..and I wasn't refering to me..it was more a matter of speech..
the point WAS..that only pratice gets you there.
Every kiss, every laid..done with your own survival instincts get you farther than anything else.
Thing is, I saw some RSD videos on youtube, that got on my nerves..I seemed to hear some lovable 20 years talking sh*t.
I was thinking, someone payed 1000 bucks for this!?!?!..
Some things were true, some things were cool...but overall..FAIL..
I'm mean, no offense ,some of their stuff works in countries, we people get drunk in clubs and the other are just shy in a corner..
In cultures and cities, where everyone picks up..Their messages are jsut flat..
We were arguing because from what you were saying it seemed like you believed that learning pick up was pointless and that you would get further just walking into a club and trying repeatedly.....which isn't true. Then you were claiming that people that have massive success like the RSD guys, don't know what they are talking about. Which again....isn't true. You realise that they don't only pick up drunk girls right? There's plenty of footage of them picking up hot sober girls in the street, in the daytime.
Soo basically if your whole message was to develop your own style and practise then please articulate it properly and you can avoid annoying people
Of course you should research a course before you take it but to be fair if I had to pay £1000 to read the game I would have. I'm not exaggerating that that book completely changed my life. The key message: "you can learn social skills" blew my mind. PLus you're assuming that we all start from the same base... we don't. Some of us are more socially retarded than others haha. Some might really need and benefit from a course.
You talk about natural instinct... the entire reason a lot of us are here is because our natural instincts were completely off-target. If I hadn't done any reading I would have carried on with those instincts and sunk even lower. In my opinion people need to read, find what they like, then internalise, practice and evaluate... that's the route to improvement.
I have nothing against it. If it works for you cool.
I jsut hate seeing people telling you how to be.
Like, when I go to clubs I see the macho men, I don't see em as a threat not even in my dreams.
Whereas, I saw a video on youtbue by RSD, that's trying to teach it's students to be macho..
Am, like is this guy CRAZY!!!
Can I send you in private message my credentials?
But you got to give your word, you'll erase it afterwards.
Am sort of married now.
It's like this:
We have 3 people in us:
middle section:fear, paranoias, insecurities..
External life: a bad one, is where we act with the middle one.
some tribes wouldn't call me the Professor, and wouldn't call you Linking.
They call me 'what happened to Professor' and you 'What happened to Linking'
Then, when you're 60..you earn being called Linking, and me Professor.
so, the premise is sort of like the middle section/external life.
You FIRST start picking up chicks...I mean, like going to a club, and actaully hitting on one.
you see that things aren't soo dramatic as your "middle life" thought.
In a sense your internal life, sort of sneak out..trying to reach your outer one.
Each fail, each kiss..if studied, within yourself, around you ESCAPING form the inside to the out..
is a step foward.
in the end, you get a game, that's custom made.
For example, I could never TEACH someone my method, unless they were exactly like me.
That's all I'm saying.
and one nugget I've learned through indirect observation..and later from a cougar I was farking..IS THAT..
If you REALLY desire a girl, she pick it on it, and she'll want you to.
But desiring is an art.
See, when people live in the middle life..they think they desire the HOT flashy girl..
BUt do they really.
The more you are you'r real self, the more you automatically, figure others out, chicks included.
So, when your SOUL really want to fark a girl, it's IMPOSSIBLE for her not to feel exactly like you do..
It's just a law of nature.
You can if you want, but tbh I don't really think anyone should trash talk a system that works for others, regardless of how good they are... it's like music, it's a matter of personal taste/preference.