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    Default The only way to REALLY become a true PUA

    There's only one way to become a true pua.
    That's to go out, and try to pick up a girl YOU like.
    1)First go up to a girl you like and try just to hang out non-invasevly or give the feeling it's non-invasive.
    2)After 30 minutes of chat try to kiss her.
    That's it, the rest will follow.
    The first times, this is what might happen.
    1)You go up to girl You really like, your eager for her approval, but your non-threating.
    So, she hangs.(but you don't do anything)
    You see her 3/4 times at the club/venue you go to, and one day you'll feel completely secure in her presence.
    you'll try to kiss her.
    and she'll say "no, I don't see you that way..."
    You ask her why
    "well, when I first met you maybe, but not moment not now."
    After the 5th time this happens.
    You'll instinctevily learn::
    To Kiss the girl when the eletricity is in the air(first day), or when you still don't feel 100% comfortable with her.
    AFTER:
    2)SO, you go out and you pick up, you kiss her the same night. You're pysched the world can't get any better.
    Then, one day, someone uglier than you, than you deem a loser, picks up a chick YOu like, kisses her, and
    farks her the same night.
    LESSON.
    NExt time you pick, up, THANKS to that "loser" your intenstity level will be higher and your calibration will be sharper.
    The intensity comes from going out and picking up, and losing, or halfway closing, and observing other PUA (which you deem 'inferior to you') hit the mark.
    You'll become sharper and more intuitive..and then
    you'll be a master..
    The hardest part OF THE WHOLE GAME is the fist pick up and the first attempted kiss..
    After that...
    the learning curve goes UP.
    This is not valid if a chick picks you up. You have to pick someone YOU REALLY like.
    GIRL you like: When a 10+ comes into a club, everybody wooes at her. We'll call her SNOWHITE.
    Now, you find her attractive, but DO YOU REALLY LIKE her. Or does that 8 with the dark hair behind have more sex-appeal.
    Now, when I watch Snowhite, I'd rather fark the evil witch than Snowhite. BUt in a club, with my buddy's I joke about how sexy snowhite is.
    CLUB: Go to a club that has music you like.
    I used to go to this club with 3 dance floors, hot women dressed super-trendy, and music I didn't like.
    Result: I always felt inadeguate.
    Then I finally found a club with music I actually listened to at home, and the clothing were bizare, but not THAT bizzare that I couldn't peackock.
    Right away, I felt part of the scene.
    It felt easier to pick up.
    If you don't like music. Don't go to Clubs. Don't force yourself.
    Go, at the local library (if you live in a city)..Or to that caffè you really like.
    Basically, go somewhere you like, and feel comfortable.
    peacocking: I see noone really explained WHY it's important.
    You might see peacokcing as 'me trying to be cool'
    WOMEN see it as 'That guy is being his real self, not hiding on some conformist sweatshirt and jeans' .
    the peacokcing makes her comfrotable with you, faster, cause she feels like she sort of 'knows' you.
    Having been for centuries forced not to be themselves (women)...they almost 'live' through you, if YOU ARE YOURSELF.
    Being yourself is an art..
    That's it.
    You don't need money to hear truism mixed with B.S. Or
    hear ALL OF THEM and read different philosophers)
    But at the moment of your first pick up...Forget everything you studied..and use your survival instinct, which will automatically hold only the grains of real truth which you need in that precise moment.
    I'd say, READ mystery's method. But then don't use it.
    have it somewhere in your blood. BUt let the 'fight' be yours.
    Oh, I saw this PUA master video, of this guy, aside, from the fact that his face was the same as the bad guy in the INCREDIBLES.
    spewed out farked up stuff like
    "Before going to a club pump yourself up in the car already"
    What? If my favorite music is Led Zeppelin and I listen to it in the car, then whatever music is the club will just deflate me.
    What you can do before the club, is focus on the strict present.
    then, he had this montage of his raising this girl the club with both his arms..It smelled like a set-up from a mile.
    As in "Just for the camera, can I borrow your Gf" then he filmed himself holding her..
    All you REALLY need is courage of that first approach.
    From mistakes, etc. Your intution will giude to the top.
    If you don't REALLY like Phussie, as in PIck up is an art you don't REALLY have a passion to learn.
    BUt you just want to get layd, without really exploring yourself or women or the scenes.
    Then,
    JUST read Mystery Method(he seems like the only one that evolves.)...
    Not that I agree with everything he sais...Something, I'd do different. But he has no flase truisms..(well, maybe when he exagerates on the primal condition of man..)
    But not with the actual pick up.
    And no, am not affiliated.
    I'm an I.T, and honestly the best I.T's in the companies, I worked for aren't the engineers with 10 PHD's,
    who studied it throughly.
    The best ones are the ones that have a passion for it, who love it.
    Some of the best ones, studied it privately, and aren't even college graduates.
    Sort of like musicians.
    You don't have to go to Juliard..If have to have a true passion for the guitar and have the Balls to go out there and try and play for people.

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    Default Re: The only way to REALLY become a true PUA

    While I like the overall message of what you're saying, you're glazing over so much stuff it's not even funny.

    -You can't have a relaxed, non-sexual talk with a girl for 30 minutes and then expect her to kiss you. Hell, if you try that don't expect to get past 2 minutes, especially if you're in a club. That's why we preach flirting, teasing, Kino, and all that yummy stuff. You need to come out with a fun, lively, sexual energy that communicates through the way you do things. This is where frame control and body language come in.
    -You don't learn by watching, you learn by doing. Nobody ever watched a guy throw a fastball and was like "oh, now I understand baseball in it's entirety." Hell, they don't even understand pitching. Not really. They may get it in theory, but they can't put it into practice without trying it out for themselves.
    -Yeah, getting that first kiss is hard. But it's not even close to being the hardest part of Pick Up. The hardest part comes 3 months and 20 kisses later, when you realize that you're nowhere near the same person you used to be. And that'll scare the everliving sh!t out of you. aa is not that bad. It's just the most talked about, because it's the first thing most guys run into and it's what sends most of them packing.

    Frankly, you lost me after that. I read all of it, but I have no idea what you're saying. You're thoughts are all over the place. This whole thing is just disorganized as f@ck. I get that you're no author, you're an IT guy, but if you work in any sort of professional environment you should know how to organize your thoughts at least a little bit.

    But that's just me being an ass.
    Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “WOW...What a Ride!”

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    Default Re: The only way to REALLY become a true PUA

    I'll second that post by Bandit. I agree in a Club you got no time to be talking to a girl for 30 minutes man. They will walk away from you, cockblockers will interfere, they will give you IOD's, etc to send you packing when you wear out your welcome. There are exceptions to that cuz sometimes girls will make you stay longer than you intended. But when they get bored man it's time to bolt! Then re-open them with something witty LOL.

    However you do make some very valid points after all why approach every girl at the Club and look like a jackass? I notice I have far more congruence when I am opening sets I actually want to open. The warm ups suck cuz I really don't want to. But after that I lose track of who I really want and start gaming. You really don't know who you like till you talk to them.

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    Default Re: The only way to REALLY become a true PUA

    I agree with all of Bandit's comments.

    30 mins of jibber-jabber in a club w/loud music is not going to happen, especially when you will have to compete for a target's attention. Trying the kiss close is possible. It's escalating, but you don't go from small talk to kissing w/zero inbetween. You need the seductive moves, vocal tones, facial expressions and Kino to get her to "INVITE" a kiss.

    I do like the aggressiveness, but there are some necessary steps missing from the picture.
    Carpe diem!

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    Default Re: The only way to REALLY become a true PUA

    Quote Originally Posted by Bandit View Post
    While I like the overall message of what you're saying, you're glazing over so much stuff it's not even funny.

    -You can't have a relaxed, non-sexual talk with a girl for 30 minutes and then expect her to kiss you. Hell, if you try that don't expect to get past 2 minutes, especially if you're in a club. That's why we preach flirting, teasing, Kino, and all that yummy stuff. You need to come out with a fun, lively, sexual energy that communicates through the way you do things. This is where frame control and body language come in.
    -You don't learn by watching, you learn by doing. Nobody ever watched a guy throw a fastball and was like "oh, now I understand baseball in it's entirety." Hell, they don't even understand pitching. Not really. They may get it in theory, but they can't put it into practice without trying it out for themselves.
    -Yeah, getting that first kiss is hard. But it's not even close to being the hardest part of Pick Up. The hardest part comes 3 months and 20 kisses later, when you realize that you're nowhere near the same person you used to be. And that'll scare the everliving sh!t out of you. aa is not that bad. It's just the most talked about, because it's the first thing most guys run into and it's what sends most of them packing.

    Frankly, you lost me after that. I read all of it, but I have no idea what you're saying. You're thoughts are all over the place. This whole thing is just disorganized as f@ck. I get that you're no author, you're an IT guy, but if you work in any sort of professional environment you should know how to organize your thoughts at least a little bit.

    But that's just me being an ass.

    I said 30 minutes.meaning 30 minutes club time..
    The point, is.
    A lot of us, learned on 'the streets' how to pick up.
    And I was talking at a base level.
    Cause frankly, I don't think people should even spent 1 EURO on course.
    When you can do it yourself.
    As in,
    I remember when I was 17..it was one step at a time..
    Then, when you start getting your first kisses of GIRLS you like.(not chicks hitting on you, NOT girls you think you have a chance with..).
    The rest will come by itself. With a little pain (some slicker playboy,etc..ec..)
    and in the end..
    You get a good game.
    I've seen on youtube all these GURU's. half of them I wanted to jump in the screen and choke them.
    The only thing, that should be thought is to the newbie..AFTER THAT..no more teachings..
    And the only thing he needs to learn is to act, right away.
    that's it.

    I mean, I saw so really,really,really awful dude preaching (especially RSD) and another one, which I forget the name..
    I mean, like disruptive shit. Shome truisms, some clear out farcical stuff.
    PEope, just need to get pushed on the first step...then rest..will come.
    Now,
    This goodlooking one dude I saw (from RDS) he's like , yeah, so this chick's hitting on me when I was living in my small town...etc..
    I'm thinking..That's not being a player.. You didn't chose her..
    (I don't even wanna get into it, but blood start boiling.)
    It's full of charlatans.
    If I had one teaching, that would be:
    Your fear today, is exactly like the one tommorrow, and exactly like 1 year form now..
    The fear ain't going away.
    For start you first mack NOW

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    Default Re: The only way to REALLY become a true PUA

    Quote Originally Posted by EMSaenz View Post
    I agree with all of Bandit's comments.

    30 mins of jibber-jabber in a club w/loud music is not going to happen, especially when you will have to compete for a target's attention. Trying the kiss close is possible. It's escalating, but you don't go from small talk to kissing w/zero inbetween. You need the seductive moves, vocal tones, facial expressions and Kino to get her to "INVITE" a kiss.

    I do like the aggressiveness, but there are some necessary steps missing from the picture.
    I'm sorry, I don't want to be rude..BUT THERE ARE NO NECESSARY STEPS!
    I've never, ever,ever,ever, used Kino.
    I talked..a little Tension, etc..
    Then looked at her in the eyes..and kissed her.
    A lot of times..me and another playboy friend over the years noticesd.
    That chicks that tlak to you for a while (unless you're really,really,really lame)..
    Secretly, don't give a shit about the conversation.
    They just want to kiss and get on with it.
    At times, we joked with each other like 'feck, I just wanted to talk'..but then she would get low-self esteem, if I didn't bust a move soon..

    If she hangs with you..and you're being vibey..
    I don't see any problem.
    If you aren't being vibey..THEN..she'll invent an excuse and leave you..

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    Default Re: The only way to REALLY become a true PUA

    about the 'you don't learn from watching'-

    There 2 types of watching.
    There's watching without EVER TRYING = nothing.

    There's trying, getting in there.
    And at first, once in a while you'll always find someone slicker, when you least expect it.
    It those cases, rather than saying 'What ho, that woman was'
    Observe..
    Don't copy the slicker man, JUST observe...
    And the conclusions are always the same..(have more balls)
    Thing is I've read, just for kick the MM.
    And his stuff WORKS ONLY with vanity-filled-peackokcing females.
    If I were to be the center of attention with my 'targets', (the women I go for).they'd seem me as empty.
    And they WILL fark, some mysterious looking dude and not me..
    BUt I'll get the BIMbo's attention though..
    So, I read it with a grain of salt..
    And he as the soundest book, I've read...image the others (I've seen on youtube)..

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    Default Re: The only way to REALLY become a true PUA

    Sorry professor but your just getting on my nerves. No it isn't neccessary to learn pick up to go out and get some girls, sometimes. However to consistently pull hot girls on a regular basis then it damn well helps. The RSD dudes would blow you out of the water in field......he'll, from what Iv seen I'd blow you out of the water in field as well

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    Default Re: The only way to REALLY become a true PUA

    And for your information most guys haven't spent money on a course, maybe read one or few books and then learnt from experience. I have read the game, MM, and natural game. I'm a me member on this forum and have watched a fair few RSD videos. But Iv been practicing pick up and getting laid more than most guys do in their life. That was due to pick up plain and simple.

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    Default Re: The only way to REALLY become a true PUA

    dear linking,
    All I'm saying is that for me and my fellows picking up is AN ART.
    where each one evolves by his OWN style through path and intuition.
    (cause after 25 ..they only people you become friends with at clubs are other playboys)
    For example, when I pick up I USE few words, i GO ON vibes, and glances, then I kiss the girl, and it works each time FOR ME.
    yes, each time...easy peasy..

    My friend(N.) picks up, telling chicks he's an ancient shamman (he clearly isn't). They laugh, and are intrigued (never know if he's serious or not.)
    We get the same results.

    But in different ways.

    Another guy I know..man, a phenomen, picks up only chicks only while they are dancing, and makes out with them and more, right there and then..(he's not escatly brad pitt...but within minutes, he's ALWAYS, I mean LAWAYS SCORING).
    I couldn't picture him asking for a phone number for the life of me..


    Chicks are empathic, they get into YOUR WORLD.

    So, it doesn't really matter, what you do..There is no set routine.

    We all get the same result, if get into your OWN vibe..(chicks appreciate it, something not standard)

    BUt we CALIBRATED THE ART through ourselves, making the pick up more unique.


    Whereas I saw these video, of people wanting you to become, a stereotype..
    A good teacher, would seek in his student his 10% of magic and bring it out..

    He couldn't Possibly preach to all the same thing.

    BTW:
    You are saying 'picking up HOT GIRLS'.
    As if ALL hot girls were the same..
    First:
    There's the hot girl, very image oriented
    which in BED usually, tries to pull an act, as in trying to keep her image UP (usually, the wrost lays.)

    There's the hot girl, which is more natural.
    etc.etc..

    See, one method, could get you all these girls.
    But a personal calibrated method would work as well.


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