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    Default New Theory in the Works for Opening HB's

    Alright guys I wanted to put up my new theory on opening women. Basically after some trial and error, good openers and bad openers, etc I noticed a common thread for opening. When I go up and say what's up, say nothing and have them open me, or say I just wanted to say hi the conversation goes flat pretty fast. So here's my new theory in the works I'm going to try out.

    Treat HB's like HB's
    So should you go up and say "What's up?" (I do this a lot) or "I just wanted to say I noticed you earlier smiling at me and just wanted to say hi"? Does this really get your point across?

    The proposed theory I am working means to say that's not really congruent since you approached them to close them not to chat them up. It has had a lot to do with a HB9 Bartender I had Oneitis for till I lost interest and got hung up on some chick on POF. Now I am trying to break the cycle of Oneitis with the HB9 chick on POF but I will tell you what I learned about gaming the Bartender.

    I used really good openers on her and she would get all hot and bothered, start wiggling, googly eyes, etc. At some point though I went AFC and just walked up to her and always started letting her open me. This was not the way to go down in a flame of glory since she would say "What's up?" and the conversation would be hard to kick into high gear. Also when I have opened with "What's Up?" on a potential target it didn't communicate interest and it has been hard to get IOI's and I usually got passive IOI's.

    So my suggestion is to open HB's always with your best chat up line, best opener, good openers, etc. The reason why I think of doing this is remaining Alpha. I mean I think we should save the chit chat for friends, co-workers, girls on the street we ain't gaming, etc.

    Why should we try to chat with them and not game them? Let's just say for now to try to use your best opener and them close them with N-close, K-close, F-close, but not "Bye" or "I'll see you later" that's auto-pilot and we need to break this cycle if we want to look attractive. I mean granted once you have gotten said target into the palm of your hand then you can switch to auto-pilot I have just noticed I don't feel congruent saying bye to HB's I am working on.

    Do you guys think this will help my inner game and how can I improve on this further?

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    Default Re: New Theory in the Works for Opening HB's

    I honestly don't know what the hell you're talking about. Sounds to me like your biggest problem is simply not enough practice and way to much thinking. Live and learn dude. Make mistakes and learn from them. I have no scripted opener that I use, or some magic punchline. I just compliment a girl and start talking them. A convo can fall flat for several reasons. The number one reason being is that most people simply don't have enough practice. Go out and just practice talking to people without even worrying about pick up. Just strike up conversations (guy or girl) everywhere and you'll naturally become better at holding more interesting conversations.

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    Default Re: New Theory in the Works for Opening HB's

    This is just called controlling the conversation. Women will let the conversation drag because they want a guy who can lead them. That means that you can't let the conversation fall off or else it will. With that in mind, of course your "theory" is correct. Use an opener that you can run with. But you should ultimately get to the point where you control the whole interaction so that it doesn't matter what opener you use.
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