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    Lightbulb Turning the conversation sexual/ flirty

    Gentlemen

    I realized that for me, my biggest pitfall is moving the conversation to something more sexual and seductive, but once I'm there I'm ok with it. I say this because in previous situations, I noticed I'm a bit more natural at Kino and moving in for the kiss (Physical stuff), but I can't normally get there because I get stuck talking about her work or something...

    What are some common ways to go from Ex. "Ladiess, I have a question for you, ______________" all the way to "I am trying so hard not to kiss you *Kiss-close*"

    Before I even heard about Pick Up, I used to say things like "You're trouble, I can tell" and "Are you intentionally trying to turn me on", but I can't seem to even move the convo to her talking about something hotter.

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    Default Re: Turning the conversation sexual/ flirty

    I dont think ladies like the dirty talk tbh, they find it creepy, if thats what you are reffering to?

    When it comes to moving from openers to closes, there are loads of routine you can pull like cold reading and stuff that really connects you too, but at some stage once your Kino you have to man up.

    I think these routines will really help with you, it will get her keen and interested and wanting you, dont chat to her about anything, she has to be the one who is trying to keep you to talk if you know what i mean. I wouldn't neccersarily be a listener because she will blurt out all her problems, instead pull some dhv's etc

    goodluck man hope it helps

    Red

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    Default Re: Turning the conversation sexual/ flirty

    ^ Don't listen to that. It's flat out wrong.

    Girls want you to escalate sexually. THEY LOVE IT! One great trick that I've used to turn from "normal" conversations to sexual conversations is to talk about what the girl is wearing. And then move the conversation to how you'd like to see what she looks like without said clothing on.

    But tbh, you can sexually escalate from any conversation. Just find a decent segue. It really doesn't even have to be a smooth segue, although it helps.
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    Default Re: Turning the conversation sexual/ flirty

    please let me know what wrong about it TheDuke

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    Default Re: Turning the conversation sexual/ flirty

    I told you what was wrong with it. Girls love dirty talk. It's necessary to escalation. That's half of what being an alpha male is. It's showing the girls that you're willing to say whatever you want.

    Go watch some of David X's stuff, and you'll see what I'm talking about.
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    Default Re: Turning the conversation sexual/ flirty

    thank you john wayne, will look up david x

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    Default Re: Turning the conversation sexual/ flirty

    Thanks for your advice TheDuke, can you (or anyone else) post like an actual conversation tree, It would help me get a better Idea of ways I could lead the conversation, Ex:

    Her:___________
    Me: ___________

    It actually reminds me of "The Game", the part where Neil Strauss goes out with his wing, and he was was asking the girl if she would go into an interview, when she said "no" his wing replied "You're not adventurous at all are you". Basically he was already leading her somewhere sexual, where Neil Strauss said he would just have let it slip into small talk.
    My Intro - http://www.puaforums.com/new-member-introductions/21788-intro-blacksheep-here.html

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    Default Re: Turning the conversation sexual/ flirty

    Ok, well for instance, going on the what she's wearing thread:

    You: Wow, that shirt is cut really low. Doesn't leave much to the imagination (note that this is a neg/push)
    Her: Blah, blah, blah, you know you like it (or "why are you looking at my breasts." whatever, who cares.)
    You: Did I say I was complaining? I doubt they could live up to my imagination anyways...
    Her: Oh yea?
    You: Yea, you wanna prove me wrong

    That's just some bullshit, but you get the point. You can escalate any conversation sexually. Just find some outlandish way to make it sexual. Find yourself talking about how she's an accountant, talk about how you've always wanted to have your junk audited. Is she a model, talk about the need for sexy legs in modeling. Is she a fucking janitor, talk about your kinky desire to get it on in the janitor's closet.

    It's all about being fun and playful.
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    Default Re: Turning the conversation sexual/ flirty

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDuke View Post
    Ok, well for instance, going on the what she's wearing thread:

    You: Wow, that shirt is cut really low. Doesn't leave much to the imagination (note that this is a neg/push) prompting her to make an effort
    Her: Blah, blah, blah, you know you like it (or "why are you looking at my breasts." whatever, who cares.)
    You: Did I say I was complaining? I doubt they could live up to my imagination anyways... prompting her to make an effort
    Her: Oh yea?
    You: Yea, you wanna prove me wrong
    As for what Juggler advocates, I want to add a little thing up.
    She does the effort in whatever way you may imagine, then you reward her effort. Not by thanking her, but by kissing her, or telling her something like you like her body/whatever.

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    Default Re: Turning the conversation sexual/ flirty

    I have only one thing to say that's missing from a lot of people's game. Its slightly advanced but it pretty easy once you understand the concepts and it will accelerate how quickly you get a girl in bed (7 Hours from the Mystery Method is too dogmatic).

    This is called a Statement of Intent, also known as an SOI. SOIs can implemented at any part of the pick up but I like to start introducing them early in the interaction (usually in the first 5 minutes).

    What makes a good SOI or how do you use them? Well there are two basic rules to an SOI
    -The word sexy or attractive.
    -A solid reason for saying it (a quality of her personality).

    Some people in the community think that being sexual is wrong and you may creep a girl out, which is true to some extent. Some people also think that if you are not sexual you will end up getting blown out by the girl at some point which is definitely true. I don't think I've ever seen anyone get a girl if they didn't do anything sexual.

    The thing is, most guys are calling a girl sexy without a valid reason (mostly because of her looks) or they say it too late when the girl has no longer viewed the man as a sexual threat. So when is it right to announce you want the girl? When she has invested in the conversation to the point that you learn something about her that you genuinely find sexy. Girls want to be liked for who they are as a person, not for their image.

    An example of an SOI. "Wow, not only are you sexy but you are an incredible conversationalist". That's as basic as it gets but its effective, you can get creative and think of loads but it's best to think of them on the spot.

    Another one so you can ramp up the sexual Tension: "Damn, your smile, it's just so sexy... I'm having a hard time even thinking everytime I see it because there is only one thing I can think of doing."

    If it genuine and she can feel that honesty you are gold. The less smooth the better but you need to know how to handle the reaction (that is vital). If she doesn't object to the SOI than keep proceeding and go forward with the interaction. If she does object or changes in anyway, just keep being confident and tell her you meant every word. She will forgive you for being a man but not for being a pussy.

    If you really feel she's objected to the SOI, you can neg or push her. There is also the option of admitting it and saying "Get used to things I say because I mean them and I never apologise for it".

    The only thing you need in context for an SOI to really work is investment on her part (her contributing to the conversation) which is achieved through wide rapport and having a solid connection. An SOI should always be treated as a reward for her investment in you.

    I hope this makes very clear sense. I would have more examples but they are all in my little black book of notes which is at home and I'm in my University Library. But the fact remains that SOIs are a game changer and its something that definitely works for me.
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