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    Default night game sarging alone

    I am new to the area I live in and don't know anyone at all pretty much, so I have no wingman to go out with. I live in an area with lots of bars that are usually pretty crowded and loud, lots of hot girls. Any pointers at all when alone? I am new to game in general, so approaching hot girls while out alone at a bar/club seems pretty damn overwhelming to me. Do you acknowledge that your alone if it comes up?

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    Default Re: night game sarging alone

    Go out and talk to EVERYONE! Have the goal of being social, not picking up women. The funniest thing for me starting out was when I went out alone I'd end up picking up a new wingman, usually not a woman. haha

    Anyways, I've made quite a few friends by just going out and running game.
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    Default Re: night game sarging alone

    Quote Originally Posted by 2champ2 View Post
    I am new to the area I live in and don't know anyone at all pretty much, so I have no wingman to go out with. I live in an area with lots of bars that are usually pretty crowded and loud, lots of hot girls. Any pointers at all when alone? I am new to game in general, so approaching hot girls while out alone at a bar/club seems pretty damn overwhelming to me. Do you acknowledge that your alone if it comes up?
    If you are asked then be honest and say that you are new to the area. Ask her if she can recommend some other bars. Use it to build rapport and lower her Bitch Shield.

    Just go out and meet women.

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    Default Re: night game sarging alone

    Duke, that's pretty much what I did this past Friday, I picked up a wingman haha. I made a couple approaches that went so so then just happened to start talking to some guy and ended up bar hopping together the rest of the night. Dave, I was asked Friday by the first 2 set I approached, they were really b*tchy at first, but they lightened up then they started testing my story of my friends were at another bar and I think they knew I was lying by the end of it. Its ok though, they weren't that hot and I approached them just to try and start getting over my aa. Is that typical that they usually are kinda like leave me alone/go away at first? After talking to them for a few minutes they actually were pretty cool/nice but like I said they were poking holes in my routine/story and by the end I think they knew I was full of s*it lol.

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    Default Re: night game sarging alone

    The short answer is yes, women will wonder what the fuck you're doing until you build attraction.

    Actually, I have a good story about this. I was out with one of my wings and we were at the bar. Beside us this guy was talking to these two HBs, and I decided to open the set with an opinion opener. It was a completely bullshit line and the guy who was with the girls started laughing at me and said, "You're not serious are you?" I held my frame and continued. The one girl started to eat it up and played right into it, until my wing fell victim to the other guy's frame and said, "You're right, you guys aren't going to fall for a pick up line like that."

    That pissed me off and we dealt with the issue after, but the point of the story is simple. When you approach a woman you can say the most retarded piece of shit line imaginable, but ultimately it's your frame that will dictate whether she accepts you. She doesn't even have to accept the statement, and lots of women won't at first, but if you maintain a solid frame they will come around quickly.
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    Default Re: night game sarging alone

    thanks for the advice duke. Yeah the first set I opened up Friday were brutal for the first minute or so then I guess they warmed up to me and we talked for 10 minutes or so. My opener was pretty bad or at least delivered badly "Hey, my friends are not here yet, do you mind if I sit and talk to you guys for a little while?" At first it was mad awkward, they were like ooook? Then they tried getting me to go get them a drink and change, but I have read a little on Hoop Theory so I was like hell no I just met you, then they said they thought the group of guys at a near by table were my friends, and that I approached them as part of a bet to see how long I could chat them up (they must have noticed me talking to them while waiting for my drink). I guess after passing those two "tests" they decided I was alright because it was pretty smooth after that. I went into my routine with the opinion opener "is it ok to date your friends ex?" we got pretty into that conversation, then I got them trying to guess my age and name, after they introduced themselves. We talked a little more and then they left, they were going to another bar. I think they were about to leave before I went up to them anyway and like I said they weren't all that hot anyway so I exited. I think I did alright for my first night approach, but clearly still have a loooooong way to go.

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    Default Re: night game sarging alone

    Hey 2champ2, what other openers do you have? I also go out at my own.

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    Default Re: night game sarging alone

    yomerol, sorry for not getting back to you sooner, while I am very new and inexperienced myself, I will share the little advice I have. Opening is my biggest issue so far. Going out on your own is farking hard man, its unfortunately the only option I have for now though. I know people on here say talk to everyone but for me just going up to people out of the blue that I have never met is very hard and awkward to me. What I have been doing is getting to know the bar tenders while at the bars I go to, and chatting up people that are sitting next to me, or come up to get a drink next to me. It just feels much more natural. I always look to see if there are any hot sets with an open area near them at the bar and thats how I start. I know i eventually have to start doing more aggressive approaches, but for starting out i Think this is an effective way to get a little more comfortable and confidence. I have had very few approaches where I just straight up go in to a set and open. I am struggling with Approach Anxiety big time, but I have noticed that after successfully opening, even for someone as inexperienced and bad at pick up as me, it gets much easier. In my opinion it really is the hardest part, at least from what I have encountered so far. My best open/approach was a few weeks ago and I used a bit of a situational opener that was perfect for a routine I had developed. So heres how the open went:

    This HB8 was sitting next to me with a group of her friends and she had a huge purse on the bar between us and I simply asked:

    Me: Hey what kind of purse/bag is that?
    HB8: Bla Bla Bla

    now this ties into my routine perfectly

    Me: I was wondering because I want to get my sister one for her birthday, shes going through a really rough time right now and I wanted to surprise her with something really nice.
    hb8: Oh thats so nice, why is she going through a hard time (small IOI)
    Me: Well her bf just broke up with her a couple months back and now he is dating one of her best friends so you can imagine how crappy that is.
    HB8: Oh wow thats messed up (she asked something else i forgot what)
    me: What do you think of dating your friends exes?

    And next thing you know she was pretty much ignoring her friends and talking only to me for a solid 20-30 minutes about all kinds of stuff. I got lots of IOI's and she even came back to where I was sitting at the bar after leaving with her friends for a while to say good by and that it was nice meeting bla bla and I number closed. She ended up flaking on me after a couple days of texting but oh well, she was really cool and a hottie but thats part of the learning process I guess. I guess I should note that I also am by no means a great looking guy, I am just average build and I just dress nice-ish. I mention this because, when I first started looking into this pick up stuff (about 2 months ago) I was of the mindset of your typical AFC that I am not hot therefore I cannot get hot girls. I have really started to lose that belief as a result of just putting myself out there and making approaches when I can manage to get past my aa. Matter of fact just tying this and thinking about it again, I realized I big flaw I made in my approach and game, I hardly said a word to her 3 or 4 friends there the entire time despite them being close. Maybe could have helped to dhv her friends a bit but oh well, next time.

    Any way my newbie advice is to try your best to open when possible. After the first minute or so, you arent really all that nervous anymore and it gets much easier. I would also suggest not so much coming up with a routine, just have some solid conversation topics in your head and structure your opener based on something situational or that will easily tie into some of your material. Also, if you havent watched/read any mystery method stuff, I highly recommend it. My first impression when hearing about mystery (after seeing a picture of him) was "wow of course hes successful with women, he is rich and he pretty much dresses like a huge tool, just what women like" lol. That was my honest impression at first and then I actually watched some of his stuff on youtube and read some things and I have to say, just about everything he says just makes so much sense. I have used some of his core concepts in my approaches and have definitely noticed some success. Thats my advice but again I am also a newbie. Does anyone else on this thread has something to add to that?

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    Default Re: night game sarging alone

    yomerol, sorry for not getting back to you sooner, while I am very new and inexperienced myself, I will share the little advice I have. Opening is my biggest issue so far. I am struggling with Approach Anxiety big time, but I have noticed that after successfully opening, even for someone as inexperienced and bad at pick up as me, it gets much easier. In my opinion it really is the hardest part, at least from what I have encountered so far. My best open/approach was a few weeks ago and I used a bit of a situational opener that was perfect for a routine I had developed. So heres how the open went:

    This HB8 was sitting next to me with a group of her friends and she had a huge purse on the bar between us and I simply asked:

    Me: Hey what kind of purse/bag is that?
    HB8: Bla Bla Bla

    now this ties into my routine perfectly

    Me: I was wondering because I want to get my sister one for her birthday, shes going through a really rough time right now and I wanted to surprise her with something really nice.
    hb8: Oh thats so nice, why is she going through a hard time (small IOI)
    Me: Well her bf just broke up with her a couple months back and now he is dating one of her best friends so you can imagine how crappy that is.
    HB8: Oh wow thats messed up (she asked something else i forgot what)
    me: What do you think of dating your friends exes?

    And next thing you know she was pretty much ignoring her friends and talking only to me for a solid 20-30 minutes about all kinds of stuff. I got lots of IOI's and she even came back to where I was sitting at the bar after leaving with her friends for a while to say good by and that it was nice meeting bla bla and I number closed. She ended up flaking on me after a couple days of texting but oh well, she was really cool and a hottie but thats part of the learning process I guess. Matter of fact just tying this and thinking about it again, I realized I big flaw I made in my approach and game, I hardly said a word to her 3 or 4 friends there the entire time despite them being close. Maybe could have helped to dhv her friends a bit but oh well, next time.

    Any way my newbie advice is to try your best to open when possible. After the first minute or so, you arent really all that nervous anymore and it gets much easier. I would also suggest not so much coming up with a routine, just have some solid conversation topics in your head and structure your opener based on something situational or that will easily tie into some of your material. Also, if you havent watched/read any mystery method stuff, I highly recommend it. My first impression when hearing about mystery (after seeing a picture of him) was "wow of course hes successful with women, he is rich and he pretty much dresses like a huge tool, just what women like" lol. That was my honest impression at first and then I actually watched some of his stuff on youtube and read some things and I have to say, just about everything he says just makes so much sense. I have used some of his core concepts in my approaches and have definitely noticed some success. Thats my advice but again I am also a newbie. Does anyone else on this thread has something to add to that?

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    Default Re: night game sarging alone

    Great advance man, glad to read that you have noticed it. Going to practice your tips.


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