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Thread: neg hit: Why do we use a neg hit

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    Default neg hit: Why do we use a neg hit

    Why do we use a neg hit? In what situation do we need to neg a woman? How do we know that we need to neg a woman or we must not neg a woman? Can a neg hit be a sarcastic comment?

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    Default Re: neg hit: Why do we use a neg hit

    You're going to find that the neg is downplayed on this forum generally and most poster here prefer a mix of cocky funny, flirty, and alpha to replace the need for a neg.

    To answer your question, a neg is used to lower an HBs value so that she in turns sees you as being higher value than her. Traditional negs (as described in The Game and Mystery Method) include things like pointing out that she has something in her teeth, commenting on her obnoxious laugh, etc.

    A sarcastic comment would likely not fall into the category of a neg, but could possibly fall under the category of cocky funny. It's important to distinguish, however, between the difference of being cocky funny, negging someone, and insulting someone. The latter two are acceptable, but once you cross the line into insulting you've gone too far.
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    Default Re: neg hit: Why do we use a neg hit

    Thank you, theDuke. My understanding of neg is that when a woman thinks she has higher value than you, you need to neg her to lower her value. Or a woman thinks that you are pursuing her that she can call the shots, you need to neg her. Otherwise we should never neg a woman, especially in the comfort building phase. A neg can kill the comfort which is accumulated between you and the woman.

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    Default Re: neg hit: Why do we use a neg hit

    Learn to be a better person not a better player.

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    Default Re: neg hit: Why do we use a neg hit

    I believe that the neg is fundamentally flawed from the outset. It assumes that the PUA has lower value than the HB from the start of the interaction and that the PUA must artificially depress the value of the HB in order to gain attraction. Now before I get further into this, let me preface it by saying that negging works. You can use it, but it's a crutch.

    Ideally, the perfect PUA will not have to artificially reduce a HB's value because his value will be higher than her's from the outset. This is the Alpha mentality, and it is the mentality you want to maintain throughout the set. This is also why the neg is fundamentally flawed. On one hand, the ideal mentality for the PUA is that of the alpha male, which is the position of highest value; but use of the neg presupposes lower value, which runs counter to the mentality you wish to portray.

    I firmly believe that the most successful PUAs are the ones that display high social value always and also increase the social value of those around them in general. The neg, on the other hand, is a method of depressing others' social value so they are more in line with the PUA's lower social value.

    Summary: Drop the neg, gain some confidence, be the an alpha, be the man!
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    Default Re: neg hit: Why do we use a neg hit

    Below is a dialogue that I talked to myself:
    I feel good to neg a girl, especially to neg a beautiful girl.
    Why do you feel good to neg a girl, especially a beautiful girl?
    I feel good to notice her reaction after negging her.
    What reaction from her do you notice?
    She feels frustrated, she doesn’t want to accept my comment, but she doesn’t know how to fight back.
    Why do you feel good when you notice that reaction from her?
    Then I feel superior.
    Why do you feel superior?
    I feel that I am intelligently superior.
    Why do you feel that you are intelligently superior?
    I feel I am more intelligent than her.
    Why do you feel that you are more intelligent than her?
    I can put her in a situation where she feel frustrated and doesn’t know how to fight back even when she wants to.
    Why do you feel that you are more intelligent than her because of that?
    Only an intelligent man is able to do that.
    Why is only an intelligent man able to do that?
    I don’t know.
    I see. Bye.
    Bye.

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    Default Re: neg hit: Why do we use a neg hit

    I really respect a lot of the members on this board for their stance on negging. Personally, I don't like to use them- I prefer when women are feeling confident and at the top of their game, too.

    I do bust them out occasionally but usually only when I'm really bored. Awhile ago this one girl was talking to me and just talking and talking and talking, literally she went on for 20 straight minutes. I tried roll offs, displaying lower interest, pretty much anything you can do with body language, to no avail. Eventually I just started delivering curt remarks to things, e.g.
    "And I know, I kinda talk a lot."
    "You do talk a lot."
    or
    "Thanks for listening."
    "No problem, I mean it's not like you've been talking non-stop or anything."
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