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    Default Re: I'm a girl-what is that u guys find difficult in picking up women?!

    Introvert is to be found unattractive? Who told you this? That's like saying "Women don't like blondes." I understand the issues faced by introverted people, as I have been one for a long time. I shifted... somehow, not saying that it's necessary at all, it just worked for me. Different people different strokes etc... But, I just wanted to ask you to look up a guy called James Marshall on youtube. Watch some of his infield stuff. He's an incredibly introverted guy that has developed a style that just makes him look like a natural. It's quite impressive.

    Don't let anyone ever tell you that introverted is unattractive.
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    Default Re: I'm a girl-what is that u guys find difficult in picking up women?!

    "I would tell any nice looking girl to simply go out by herself (I have done it, so i am aware if how awkward it is) and make herself available. I guarantee a guy will approach her after being out a couple times.

    I was referring more to the fact that almost any girl, if she stays in shape, grooms herself, and puts on a little makeup, will be at least an HB 6."

    I do see what you're saying. Unfortunately I see this rule falls in line with another rule - You ever hear a lot of attractive women complain that their boyfriends are assholes? Or that all men are assholes? we've all heard that. I think that's because excluding the PUA/seduction circles, the only men with the confidence to approach women and hit on them, albeit badly, are mainly arrogant and egotistical i.e ass holes. Though there are some worryingly creepy strange men in the seduction world, a lot of them are the nice guys that are fed up of not being that arrogant bloke that has the balls to approach the girl he likes and say in whatever direct or indirect way he chooses "I want you.".

    Do you think that makes sense or would you disagree?
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    Default Re: I'm a girl-what is that u guys find difficult in picking up women?!

    I don't think that is a fair comparison. I think the "all men of are assholes" comments come from women who are poor judges of character. I know women love a dominant, powerful man, but they'd rather have a man who is powerful and dominant who treats them like crap, than a guy who isn't what they would call powerful and dominant, but can still provide for them and treat them nicely? Not all women are like that and a lot of women who are outgrow it when they mature.

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    Default Re: I'm a girl-what is that u guys find difficult in picking up women?!

    I would add that a lot of women actually struggle to get men. they simply disqualify any guys who aren't super confident (usually assholes). its almost their own fault, that they end up with assholes for being too selective. but girls deffinetly get a lot more practice than guys do, because they face a different kind of pressure in the interactions they have, girls are pressured to be selective, and to disqualify the majority of guys who do approach them. its no wonder they end up with the few jerks who do have the confidence to get passed their selecting mechanisms.

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    Default Re: I'm a girl-what is that u guys find difficult in picking up women?!

    how guys are raised now a days has hurt them socially. People think it is weird to walk up and talk to a stranger for no reason. It is thought of as the guys job to initiate anything and everything with a women so there fore it is hard for most of us. I am not saying it is easy on women but that is what this is about. Helping guys get over their misguided fears and beliefs when it comes to social dynamics.Being a nice guy is great but that will get you to the friend zone and no farther. how many women do you know that talk about their best friend who happens to be a guy and then say "Oh i wish more guys can be like you but I don't want to be with you because that will ruin our friendship" It is that BS that makes men feel like they need to be a$$holes to women. And it is that reason that women think that men are jerks. It is not really the womens fault though because as meteora says it is how they are raised.
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    Default Re: I'm a girl-what is that u guys find difficult in picking up women?!

    It has been my experience that when women date jerks, it's their fault. For example, my sister has been with several guys that treated her horribly. Everyone and myself, could tell these guys were pieces of garbage within 5 minutes of meeting them. I don't get how someone as socially retarded as myself can recognize this, but some really socially saavy girls can't see through the bullcrap. It makes no sense!

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    Default Re: I'm a girl-what is that u guys find difficult in picking up women?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Stigward View Post
    Introvert is to be found unattractive? Who told you this? That's like saying "Women don't like blondes." I understand the issues faced by introverted people, as I have been one for a long time. I shifted... somehow, not saying that it's necessary at all, it just worked for me. Different people different strokes etc... But, I just wanted to ask you to look up a guy called James Marshall on youtube. Watch some of his infield stuff. He's an incredibly introverted guy that has developed a style that just makes him look like a natural. It's quite impressive.

    Don't let anyone ever tell you that introverted is unattractive.
    His pickup stuff seems interesting, but what makes you think he's introverted? He doesn't strike me as one.

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    Default Re: I'm a girl-what is that u guys find difficult in picking up women?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Loudou View Post
    His pickup stuff seems interesting, but what makes you think he's introverted? He doesn't strike me as one.
    I have watched a lot of his seminars and he just seems so introverted. At the end of one someone asks a question and gets part of their question wrong, stating that james said something he actually didn't and he says "I never said that. I wouldn't say that." almost biting the guy's head off. I don't think he has a lot of experience socialising with strangers that aren't girls he wants to sleep with.

    And he does pretty much admit it in one of his seminars too. But also his low energy methods, his "stare" that seems to suck information out of people, forcing them to talk. Sometimes there's just silence between him and the girl he has approached...

    It could just be me but he seems like an introverted person I think. Not the sort of guy that would be the life of the party, instead the guy stood around the edge, watching it unfold. I could be wrong though.

    Interestingly, I'm a massive extrovert (now), and yesterday I tried a really low energy approach like James' ones. A girl on a bench, I walked up, made some remark about her clothes, and then conversation just happened... this girl for some reason just felt the need to tell me the last few years of her life story, which was pretty interesting. I never imagined myself using such a low energy approach, But I really enjoyed it.
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    Default Re: I'm a girl-what is that u guys find difficult in picking up women?!

    Quote Originally Posted by christina.lek View Post
    Soooo i'm a girl.! And i can't help but noticing how many times i've seen guys liking a girl but still, won't express it or won't express it good! Guys at bars or pubs checking out women, exchanging smiles and glances and yet won't go talk to her, or even in the closer environment, work etc.

    So what is it that you guys find hard when it comes to picking the girl you want? Where does this process go stuck?

    I'm not here to judge anyone of course i'm just really curious to see what's the problem here and if i can, i can help, since i've been having a lot of flirting with men myself!!
    Good question.

    For me, I place an amount of value on the woman that she doesn't deserve and I care about the outcome.

    If I don't approach a girl in a couple seconds, I never will because I already think she is special and if she rejected me, I might make the mistake of putting a meaning on it about myself.

    For instance, she rejects me= I am not wearing the right clothes, etc.

    I am working on removing this to be truly comfortable and natural with women.
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    Lightbulb Re: I'm a girl-what is that u guys find difficult in picking up women?!

    Quote Originally Posted by SOUTH_FL_PUA View Post
    Good question.

    For me, I place an amount of value on the woman that she doesn't deserve and I care about the outcome.

    If I don't approach a girl in a couple seconds, I never will because I already think she is special and if she rejected me, I might make the mistake of putting a meaning on it about myself.

    For instance, she rejects me= I am not wearing the right clothes, etc.

    I am working on removing this to be truly comfortable and natural with women.
    look, if you take mental possession of a woman before you get to know her, you are only setting yourself up for failure. it is one of the biggest mistakes AFC's make that I see here on the forums. prevent it by following the three second rule and by not imagining you and her in your head. I try to only allow wemon I've already had sex with to make it into my imagination


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