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    Default The Mystery Method

    We all know the mystery method is outdated and stale, but I wanted to post the various states as they can still help you calibrate where you are in the interaction with a woman.

    SP - Social Proof

    o The seduction of a woman often happens long before you even know she exists. Women have eyes in the back of their head. They are genetically programmed to gauge the social canvas and adjust accordingly.


    A1 - Open the set

    o Say your false time constraint to put the target at ease.
    o Say Your Opener
    o Roll-off
    o Lock-in
    o Gauge Target Availability. You need to get to know the nature of the target's existing relationships and her relation to the people she's out with. She might be single, or married. She might be out with her boyfriend or her brother.

    A2 - Make target interested in you
    o demonstrate higher value, while simultaneously showing lack of interest in the target. She responds with Indicators of Interest.

    A3 - Show interest in target
    o Bait the woman to become more invested in the interaction, and then he rewards her efforts with Indicators of Interest.

    Comfort - Isolate & Focus on the target

    C1 - Conversation
    o The couple shares in friendly dialogue. A sense of comfort and rapport develops.

    C2 - Connection
    o Both parties feel a vibe that "It is on." Kissing occurs. This phase may last over the course of several dates.

    C3 - Intimacy
    o Now at a seduction location, heavy making out ensues and the couple moves into the bedroom.


    S1 - Foreplay
    o Begin the physical escalation toward sex. If this happens too soon, it can cause buyer's remorse.

    S2 - Last Minute Resistance
    o Last-minute resistance is point of no return before sex occurs. It's often a freak-out moment for the woman.

    S3 - Sex
    o It is necessary to have sex as soon as possible to level the playing field.

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    That's the M3 Model....a fantastic breakdown for understanding the process. If anyone's interested, I put this together when I first discovered the M3 Model. It's basically the same thing, with information and routines categorized under the places they need to be.

    The M3 Model - The Easiest Way To Pick-up

    The M3 Model is the breakdown and analysis of the COURTSHIP phase of any male-female interaction: meaning, the period of time leading into any full-fledged sexual relationship (be it a friends with benefits [fwb] situation or a girlfriend/boyfriend [gf/bf] thing).

    The general consensus is that from the time of meeting a girl to the time of closing a girl (depending on your definition--for adults it's typically sex, while for younger teens it's generally just making out/kissing. For older teens it's generally somewhere in between depending on age & experience), to do all 9 steps it should take anywhere from 7-11 hours of total face-time with the girl if you are running everything correctly. This does NOT have to occur all at once. It can be a few minutes here, a few hours there, etc.

    But the point is this: it should not take months & months of build-up. Rather, if it's going to happen at all, typically it will happen within the first few handful of dates. More specific time breakdowns will be added later for each phase.

    { ATTRACT -> COMFORT -> SEDUCTION } ---> Relationship

    The attraction phase is divided into :
    A1 - Approach
    A2 - Attracting the HB or Female-to-male Interest
    A3 - Male-to-Female Interest

    The comfort phase is divided into :
    C1 - Building rapport
    C2 - Building emotional connection and physical connection
    C3 - Intimacy

    The seduction phase is divided into :
    S1 - Foreplay
    S2 - LMR
    S3 - Sex

    Step1: Approach
    This is the first part of the courtship process. If you are seducing a HB, you must focus on creating mutual attraction at first.

    A1: Opening
    The goals of the A1 phase are approached a group, use opener to start a conversation with the set. Here are a few rules in this phase:

    1. peacocking: Peacocking is the use of flashy or outlandish clothing to attract women.

    2. The 3 second rule: You must immediately approach the target or a set within 3 seconds when entering the venue.

    3. Neg: an ambiguous statement or seemingly accidental insult wrapped in the package of a complement, with the intent of actively demonstrating to the hot babe lack of interest in her.

    The patronizing neg: Tells her she's immature, or has less evolved social skills
    -That was cute- or -You're cute
    -How old are you?
    -How short are you?
    -Do that again

    The lie neg: To expect her to believe these you would be insulting her intellegence
    -My parent parents died in a plane crash before I was born.
    -Did you know Webster's Dictionary was removing the word "gullible"?

    Spading negs: These tell her you've hardly recognized her as a female, so her beauty has no power over you

    Grade school negs: Just silly, informal shit. Good for fluffing.

    The "Not, are you?" neg: Accuses her of being or doing something you find unacceptable or unattractive.
    -You're not (insert anything), are you?
    -(example) "You're not shoplifting, are you?"

    Other negs
    Aww.. your eyes are lovely.. especially the left one work and then..
    Wow.. you could ALMOST be a stripper!
    You are pretty.. you could have been a model.. if slightly taller.. and slimmer..
    You are pretty.. are you an EX model..
    You look really sexy.. from behind!
    Aww.. nice hair!!! Is it real? (pull) Hey it moved! could be a hair model..if you lose the split ends!
    You are cute.. in a kinda strange way!
    You have an interesting figure!
    You have something on your nose.
    Cool perfume. I think my granny wears the same.
    Your hands are so SOFT and GENTLE, like toilet paper.
    You look very stunning, must be the lighting.
    You have some real beautiful, gorgeous hair, like Lassie's.
    "Buy me a drink and I'll tell you everything!"
    'I love your eyes.' look into her eyes, 'OMG, are those contacts! Oh, you little cheat' playful hit 'I totally fell for that!'
    "you make that 80s haircut work"...
    "you almost make that haircut work..."
    "add one more day in the gym and you'd be smokin"
    "I dig the way you give up fashion for comfort".
    Holy shit. You really don't know what you're doing, do you?
    "You have a very loud friend."
    Move her beer away from her....lean in little bit whisper "you shouldn't be already not making any sense"
    when she says something stupid: "How much to drink have you had already?!?" ....."Alcoholic!"
    "You are sooo cute, i'd adopt you. Put a little mat at the foot of my bed... you could sleep there"
    "You don't seem too adventurous, but you might make a nice friend..."
    "You're funny! ....but looks aren't everything."
    Holy shit, is that a penis in your pants???
    "wow ur nuts have u been taking ur medication?"
    "Hmm, you have very clear skin....oh, wait, it's just foundation. Looks realistic, though."Then you can follow it up a little while later with, "So what about your eyelashes? They're fake too?Please, at least tell me your hair is real..."

    Grabby or Interrupts
    Guys, she's totally like my little sister, cute (bit of playful) and annoying( serious) * Mystery's line after: How do you role with her?

    Girl Working
    YOU: Busy today?
    HER: Yea, really busy!
    YOU: I can tell, your hair is all over the place

    4. Opener or opinion opener: Canned or environmental materials used to start a conversation with the HB or the set.
    You Guys Can Settle a Debate – Opening a set
    Great for coffee shops, seated venues, etc.

    Your wing and you walk in and pick a seat next to a set, in which case you throw your coat over one of their chairs at the table. Just give them the signal as if you were saying, "Is this ok?"

    Turn back around to your wing, then have a good fun conversation at which in some point you turn back around, smiling of course, to grab a cell phone out of your coat pocket. Or use slight of hand as you lift the coat back the set looks up to see what you are doing, you will already be smiling and in a good mood, and give them a thoughful look. They will be looking at you wanting you to say slightly turn back to them and then run your opinion opener on them as normal.

    "Hey - you know what? You guys can settle a debate a friend of mine and I are having..." (go into an opinion opener)
    Note: I have found this to be a good way to initially test a set, just dont wait 20 mins...only wait for about one or two.

    Flip Me the Bird
    The approach is of little importance with this opener but overall 'alpha' or 'outgoing' body language would be good. What I give here is exactly how I use it, I cannot stress enough the word 'I' in this statement.
    Valentine: "Hey guys can I ask you a quick question?".

    Before they are afforded time to answer I will usually interject with;
    Valentine: Wait a sec guys you know if there's one thing I hate it's when people make me uncomfortable so what I want you guys to do is flip me the bird the second I make you uncomfortable in the least okay *smile*.
    (I usually get a laugh at this point or a smile at the least.)

    Valentine: "Infact you guys don't look like you have enough guts to flip me the bird. C'man go ahead do it, c'maaaaan flip me the bird don't be so shy *laugh*".

    When they do flip me the bird I usually pretend like I'm hurt and start to walk off saying "Wow you guys are SO rude! I can't believe you!" then return and say “but seriously…” and go into your opener.

    What are you Looking for?
    You: "What are you looking for?"
    The first response is almost always "huh?" or "nothing."
    You: "Everybody is looking for something, unless.. .you've found it. My name's, what's yours?"

    Jealous Girlfriend Opener
    Style: Hey guys, let me get your opinion on something. I'm trying to give my friend over there advice, but we're just a bunch of guys and not qualified to comment on these matters.
    Girls: What?
    Style: Okay, I've only got a sec. See Wing over there? Well, he has been dating a girl for three months. And she just moved in with him. Now, this is a two part question. So, imagine you've been dating someone for three months. And he is still friends with his old girlfriend from college. How do you feel about that?
    Girls: blah blah blah are they just friends blah blah blah
    Style: Yes, they're just friends. There's nothing else going on. They talk like once a week at most.
    Girls: I think its fine / I don't think they should be talking / whatever
    (At this point, Style has been body rocking out of the set. Now he rocks back in to continue the opener.)
    Style: Okay, now let's say that he has a drawer in his apartment. And in that drawer he keeps all of his old photographs and letters. Now, some of those letters happen to be from ex's and some of the photographs happen to be with ex'es.
    Girls: blah blah blah concerned comment blah blah question
    Style: It's not like he ever looks at them. They are just there, like old souvenirs and memories of his past.
    Girls: I think its fine / I think he should put them away in a closet / He should destroy them / whatever
    Style: Okay, the reason I'm asking is because Wing's girlfriend says she doesn't want him to talk to his ex from college at all. She wants him to cut it off completely. And she wants him to destroy all of his old photos and letters from ex'es. She says it's just holding onto the past, and he should let go of it now. Personally, I thought it was extreme and a bit insecure. But what do I know. I'm a guy. And, as we all know, guys think differently from girls...
    Girls: [excited responses]
    Style: OMG, this is just like watching the View...

    Cologne Opener
    Style: "Hey guys, I want your opinion on something. See, I have two different colognes on my wrists, and I want to see which one you like better."
    (Let them smell the cologne. Be cocky and funny, neg the target, etc.)
    Style: "The reason is, I have so many colognes from my ex-girlfriends on my shelf, and I want to give some of them away and keep the best ones."
    Variation #1:
    After she picks one, you pull out a pen and make a mark on your wrist, next to five or ten others.
    Variation #2:
    Her: "So what are they?"
    Style: "This one is hemlock, this one is chloroform."

    Variation #3:
    Style: "Thanks. I have all these old colognes around the house, so I'm having a face off. This one has won ten days in a row!"

    Should a Guy Wear Makeup?
    (this approach originally opened with “Flip Me the Bird”)
    Valentine: "anyway, let me ask my question cuz I've gotta step off in a second. Tell me; is it true girls give each other makeovers?".

    • If they go on to ask 'what do you consider a makeover?' then guess what... I'm in the convo!
    • If they answer 'no' I will proceed to stay, break that thread and use a different opener (if and only IF I like their energy) or simply eject the set.

    Usually I will recieve a 'yes' response of some description. "Yea well we do each other's make up sometimes". "Well if we dont' like something about how one of our friends dresses we'll tell her".

    Valentine: "Ah I see, sooooo *looking around the group* I bet you were a victim of a makeover right? *pointing to the SHB of the group*.

    • If she answers 'yes' then I initiate a conversation about what they did to her and continue on to my 'difference between girls and guys' routine.
    • If I recieve a 'no' (which I secretly hope for everytime so I can role play)…
    Valentine: "Wow, so I bet you're a fashion guru right? (let her answer) Hey! you know what we're gonna do; we're gonna give me a makeover right now. Listen though you have to be really brutal otherwise I wont believe you. I hate it when people are all nice in my face and give me fake compliments all the time when they don't mean them. C'man go ahead, tell me.

    • If she doesn't want to give me a makeover I'll ask her friends if she's always "so shy, I mean c'mon she's even afraid to give me a make over, forget it you guys give me one instead." Note: This can get you BLOWN OUT in the most indiscrete of fashions.
    • If she does oblige and give me a makeover I'll commend her on her work but tell her 'that's exactly what all my chick friends say but I personally think my look is unique and I'm all about me". After doing that I'll turn to her friends or preferably my wingman.
    Valentine: "Hey guys I think I might have found my new fashion stylist, Wow she's really amazing. She even gave me a makeover free. Sadly though I can’t take her advice...".

    They usually take the bait of the open loop but if they don't we all are in possesion of atleast the most basic of social skills and will be able to start a new thread.... right friends?

    5. False Time Constraint: "I can only stay for a minute,"
    “I can only stay a minute”
    “….real quick, and then I have to rejoin my friends”
    “…oh, and by the way, before I go...”

    6. Body Language:
    Using Body rocking to create the impression that you are about to leave
    Body rocking is the use of physical movement to create the impression that you are just about to leave the set. In other words, it's a nonverbal false time constraint. You must make those in the set feel like you are not staying long. As you speak, begin to turn away and shift your weight to your back leg like you are about to leave, then return as you say, "Oh, by the way, before I go...," and stack to your next story or routine.

    It's not good to have a lot of extra motion while you are in set, and some beginners have a problem with bouncing around or fidgeting.

    Beware: Usually this sort of motion is unconscious, and it expresses nervous energy. Without a faithful wing to point this out, you may not even realize you are doing it. Movement like this can wreck an otherwise perfectly good set.

    The person who moves the least (i.e., the person who reacts the least) will often be perceived as the one with more social status. If you are not moving for a calculated reason, such as for performing body rocking, then it is better to stay in one spot, with a comfortable body posture. Avoid fidgeting.

    A2: Female-to-Male Interest
    In A2 phase, you should create attraction. Some pickup routine in this stage like:

    1. DHV: Demonstrate high value, using gimmick, magic, psychic routine, humor ......
    ESP Opener (can be used as an opener too)
    You: "Do you believe in ESP?" Remember to SMILE or you may startle her.
    You: "Just think of the first number that pops into your head from one to four. Don't say it. Just think it ... now take that # and imagine that it is drawn on a blackboard in your head. Have you done that?"
    Her: OK
    You: "What's so neat about imagination is ... we both have it ... On the blackboard, I see the number ... three."
    Whether you get it right or not reply…
    You: "Alright, lets try this one more time. This time think of a different # from one to 10. Got it? Picture it in white chalk on the blackboard ... you are thinking of the number ... 7."
    • If you got the first wrong and the second right, you look like you finally got it ... a 1 in 10 chance.
    • If you get BOTH right (a 90% chance seeing as it is a psychological trick where most north Americans naturally choose 3 and 7 as their first picks) that's a 1 in 40 chance ... "and of course I don't stake my reputation on mere chance."
    • If you get the first right but the second wrong or both wrong, say... "PROOF! ESP does NOT exist!" Then start to laugh like this "Mooa ha ha ha ha ha ha! And you believe in ESP!" a good neg hit to start. If she mentions that most people pick 3 and 7 (most girls wont know this though) just say, "really? Hmm… didn't know that ... thank you Cliff Claven." (From Cheers)
    If you take the wording I have and do this EXACTLY as stated, you will be surprised HOW well you will do. When they ask HOW, tell them ... I DON'T KNOW. Tell her you can SEE the numbers on your imaginary blackboard. This is NOT a trick. You hate magicians. If she wants you to do this again, tell her ... "don't be greedy now."

    Grey Elephant in Denmark
    Think of a number between one and ten. Don’t say it, just think it.
    Multiply that number by 9.
    Add the two digits together. So if your number is 53, 5 plus 3 is 8.
    Subtract 5 from where you are now.
    Correlate your number to the alphabet. 1=A, 2=B, etc. Think of a country that begins with that letter
    Go to the second letter in the name of the country and think of an animal that begins with that letter.
    Think of what color that animal is.
    “But wait, there are no grey elephants in Denmark!”

    Magic Numbers
    Think of a number between 1 and 20.
    Double your number. (very important to say “double”)
    Add 4 to it.
    Now divide by 2.
    Now subtract your original number.
    Your answer is 2.

    Carrot Routine
    What is 5+1?
    What is 4+2?
    What is 3+3?
    What is 2+4?
    What is 1+5?
    Now repeat the number 6 over and over in your head for 6 seconds.
    Now, picture in your mind a vegetable. Don’t say it outloud, but focus on it.
    It’s a carrot!

    2. Storytelling
    For best results, come up with your own stories. Life has the best stories anyways. But until then, here’s some to use in the field.

    Yoga Teacher Story
    You ever date your yoga teacher?

    I was taking this Yoga class, and the teacher was totally hot, like perfect body, you know. But, I'm there for my inner self, right, so... I'm just doing my thing, and I'm getting all zoned out, when I feel this brush on my neck. I'm like whoa... ok. That's some cool yoga, right. I'm probably gonna hit enlightenment soon, you know. But, then next week I'm up in this pose and feel a little lap rub. And I look up and it's my Yoga Teacher! Yeah. Can you believe it? So, the third class, I'm doing my Yoga, and she just goes for it and grabs my ass! Well, they say Yoga either makes you really spiritual, or really good in bed... I've never been all that spiritual.

    Childhood Love
    Do you guys remember your childhood love? Ok well when I was six years old, I had fallen in love- it was awesome. It was this girl . We used to play in the sandbox after school, and walk around and hold hands and stuff.. But, my brother kept giving me shit! So, I decided I was gonna run away. So I had my little stick with some toys and a teddy bear, and some hi-c juice boxes and I wrapped it all up in a blanket. So I'm walking down the street and she sees me and she's like "hi, hi!" And she comes over to me and she's like "what are you doin?" And I tell her "I'm leaving. Not on a plane or anything, but I'm leaving, far away." And she's like "cool, can I come?" And I'm on top of the world, because it's me and my girl, and we're going off to start a life together.

    So we get up to this hill, and we see this abandoned house and we're like "cool, now we have our own house." We go in, and we try to start a fire there, but we're kids, so we don't know shit about fire, and pretty soon the house is up in flames, and the cops are there, and we're still holding hands. And so my dad comes and has to talk to the cops, and he starts yelling at me like "Son, what you did, was not cool. This isn't the behavior I expect from a young man." But, then we walk away from the cops and he looks at me and he whispers "nice work son, she was cute!"

    Strip Teacher
    Hey guys, you ever said anything stupid in class?

    Yeah, when I was a kid,I was in class, taking a test, really focused. And the girl sitting next to me yells out, "Hey Ms. Nattelson, your slip is showing!" And I didn't know what a slip was, but I just saw her fussing with her dress. Whatever, I'm trying to take my test. But, again a second time, this girl starts yelling: "Hey Ms. Nattelson, your slip is showing again!" Now, I'm getting really annoyed, ‘cuz I'm trying to finish the test. Anyways, a couple minutes later, The girl starts yelling again "Hey Ms. Nattelson, your slip is showing in the back!" At this point I lost it, and I just yelled out "Why don't you just take it off!" ooooh... hmm....

    I didn't know what the hell they were laughing at. But, you know there's a point in every young boys life when he wants to tell his teacher to strip. I guess, I'm the only one who actually did it.

    Naked Resort
    Have any of you been to a naked resort? I was taking this friend up to a workshop up in Harbin hot springs, and she was like, I don't want to go there! Everybody's gonna look at me! I tell her well it's cool; you could just wear a bathing suit. So, she does. But of course, at Harbin, nobody's wearing a bathing suit. But eventually, it's a cool environment, she mellows out, and she gets naked, and loves it! We're having a great time. Two months later, she calls me up, and she's like, I want to go back to that place! I want to go back to that place!

    Eventually we go back there, and we're getting unpacked, and she's got the bathing suit, and I go oh, what's this about? And she goes, oh … I kind of like the attention.

    Bisexual Thug
    Did you just grab my ass?.. people keep grabbing my ass...

    Ok get this- I was hanging out with some friends at this bar, and we're having a kick ass time, and I meet this girl that I totally hit it off with. A couple of minutes later my friend walks up to me and whispers into my ear, 'Dude I think she has a boyfriend, and he's across the bar...' And I turn to look and it's this humongous 250-pound guy and he does not seem happy AT ALL. He had his arms all crossed and he's looking at me, eying me down, while this girl's all giggly and touching my arm, and I'm freaking out- I mean she was cute, but not worth getting pounded over.

    So I go off to join my friends, and later that night, I walk past both of them, and I hear her say to her BF, 'There goes that guy..' And this HUGE guy turns to her and says in this REALLY effeminate voice 'Too bad, he was thooooooo cute! Go hurry up and find me anotthher wun.'

    Gay Cat
    Have you ever met a gay cat? Ok, get this, my friend Sara bought 3 cats some time ago. I dont know what she was thinking when she bought them, but she bought all three *male* cats. It was so funny. When I would go to her place to visit her, I would see the cats spooning each other, sometimes even licking each other. Really. I told Sara "you know what, I think they're gay, I mean not gay by birth, but maybe prison know. I mean, they havent seen a female cat in months...what are they supposed to do?" So Sara started getting freaked out, its amazing how she never thought about it. And we decided one day that we're gonna do something about it, since the last thing Sara wanted were gay cats. So we embarked on a mission to find a female cat.

    Well,Sara has a neighbor that she really hates, and he had a female cat, so once while the guy was away, we stole it and put it in the room with three male cats. Only God knows what happened then. Well, now her neighbor's cat is knocked up. So pretty soon I think I know where you can get your very own little gay kitten!"

    The Perfect Couple
    You guys ever seen the "Perfect" couple?

    Well, I'm out with my friend David the other night. And David's this friend from grade school. He was always kinda nerdy, you know. Kinda like Millhouse on the Simpsons, right? And When we were kids we'd always make him laugh during lunch to get him to spit his milk out. It was just too much fun. Actually, we still do it, when we're out drinking. We try to get him to spit beer out his nose. So, anyway, we're at this bar, and we meet some girls, it's going good. And David tells this story. It's not even that funny, but when he's done, this one girl just starts busting up laughing. She just goes so crazy, she spits her beer out all over me. You know. .. like out her nose and everything. Man. So, I'm totally disgusted, and I'm like wiping it off and stuff. And David leans in and whispers "This one's mine."

    3. AMOGing
    I fucked her
    AMOG: How do you guys know eachother?
    PUA: Her? I fucked her.
    (Girl will go "aaaaaaaaah... hahahahah, I did NOT!!! But she'll hit you and be giggling and start crawling all over you...).
    AMOG: Hey, this is a nice girl.
    PUA: Her.. she's a slut..
    (Again, girl will start going "nooooo!" while giggling her ass off and crawling on you.. this is very deflating to the guy trying to cut in)
    NOTE: Trying the above 2 was actually kinda weird for me. I was like "fuck, I can't say this". But I'd seen the European naturals use it on me a few times, so I thought "fuck it, I'll use it". I use it all the time now, including just bringing it up like "actually guys, you know her and I know eachother.. know how? I fucked her.." The girls freak out and giggle and grab you and get hyper. The key though is that you have to do it when they're already at high buying temperature. You do it to add punch to something else that already got them laughing.

    Out AMOGing - 1
    AMOG: Hey girls whats up (or whatever)
    PUA: Hey dude dude (putting hands up like you give up).. I will pay you a HUNDRED dollars right now, to take these girls away from me.
    (Girls will go "no no no... we love you PUA.. noooooo" and giggle and crawl on you.. Again, immediately deflating to the guy)

    Out AMOGing - 2
    AMOG: Hey girls what's up (or whatever)
    PUA: Dude, oh my God that shirt is AWESOME.. I had one just like it in highschool, it fucking rocks man.. Having a good time in (city) man.. It's awesome huh? Dude you're like the coolest guy I met all night.. (patting him on the shoulder)..

    AMOG: (showing signs that he wants to fight)
    PUA: hahah, dude, are you like trying to pick a fight with me? hahahha.. ok ok hold up hold up.. wait a sec, we'll do even better.. first... we'll have an armwrestling competition.. then second.. we'll do one armed pushups.. and last POSE-DOWN!! (then you start flexing and go "ladies?", and they start saying how you're so strong, and the AMOG looks like a tool.. you're tooling him, by making him seem like he's trying too hard to impress the girls by showing them superiority).
    AMOG: Hey man.. keep talking.. no no, let's hear your pitch man.. pick these girls up man, you're doing awesome.
    PUA: Hey, you know I've gotta try to impress you COOL (x-city, x-dressed, x - whateverquality) guys.. You guys fucking ROCK.
    (cut him down on whatever limited amount of knowledge you have of him, even if its not relevant whatsoever, he'll feel uncomfortable and his bodylanguage will show it)
    AMOG: (starts touching you to show dominance)
    PUA: hahhaha, DUUUUDE, I'm not into guys man... dude, there's club-gay-whatever over there man.. hands off the merchandise buddy
    (girls laugh at him, then he starts qualifying himself to you that he's not gay)
    AMOG: (gets in your face)
    PUA: (don't answer.. just SIT there quiet.. the more he says stuff to you, the more he's TRYING.. talking too long without an answer is QUALIFYING yourself.. so if he keeps trying to out-alpha you, and you don't answer, eventually he looks beta because he tried too hard to get your attention.. another trick is to make "let's get out of here" girlcode with your eyes to the girls (mimmick what they do to eachother when you do a bad set), and they'll leave with you)
    AMOG: (gets in your face)
    PUA: dude, you're an alphamale..
    AMOG: what's that..
    PUA: you know, like the leader of the pack.. you call the shots.. you can put your hands on guys you don't know, cause you're alpha..
    (fucks up his whole 'look cool' game, because you've characterized all his manneurisms, so anything he does to look alpha makes him appear to be qualifying himself too you.. if he continues, just say "see... alphamale.. whoa tiger, I can't mess")

    4. Cocky & Funny

    5. Push-and-Pull
    A3: Male-to-Female Interest
    In this phase, The hot babe must be baited into demonstrating her own value. By this way, you're just attracted to her by her personality or charm, other than her looks. You must have her earn you interest and be interested in something besides her looks. Here are some routines

    1. Hoop theory
    Grabbing her hoop
    HB: Will you buy me a drink?
    YOU: Buy ME a drink and we will see.

    Putting up a new hoop
    HB: Why are you talking to me?
    YOU: Hey why do you do wear your lipstick like that?

    HB: What is with your shirt?

    2. Bait - Hook - Reel - Release

    3. Qualify her:
    Why to qualify her
    The a3 phase of qualifying is basically substantiation as to why you are attracted to her...OTHER THAN HER must find something about her that you are into and give HER IOI's. The reason for this is not for you...we know you want her and we know why, but she doesnt....and she DOESN"T want to feel like she is only wanted for her looks; she wants to feel like she is investing in the relationship....if you give her IOI's too easy...she will think you’re easy and she loses attraction for your....but dont be too hard...or she will think your not attracted to her at all and she will again lose interest.

    Some Qualifying Routines
    1. "What's the most exciting thing you've ever done?"
    2. "What are your talents/specialties/what makes you unique?"
    3. "If you could live anywhere in the world, where would it be and why?"
    4. "If there is one thing that you could do for the rest of yor life, what would it be?"
    5. "What's something wierd about you?" (They tend to not answer this one as much)
    6. "What do you do for fun, (besides school/work)?"
    7. "What's a significant event in your life?"

    Communicating that you are Qualifying them
    Most guys work this backwards. In general, with women you just met, you want to make statements. Avoid asking many questions. The exception are questions which you ask for screening purposes. These are tests which you make up for her to try to pass. This accomplishes a few things. It shows you have distinguishing taste. It tells her that she will have to have more than just a great body to get with you and it puts her in the proper dynamic of working to garner your affections. You can be direct or subtle. But either way they should be difficult even to the point where she can not answer. That is right - have her fail some test questions. The questions should require work on her part either because they require imagination, a sense of humor or just plain stretching her values to meet yours.

    Here are a few examples and follow ups:

    1."If you could spend your life doing one thing, what would it be?"
    She will probably say something lame. You follow up by telling her about your passion in life. You give her an example to try to live up to and demonstrate how well spoken and thoughtful, passionate about your own life you are.

    2."I like a woman who can cook well. What is your best dish?"
    Wether she comes up with something or not you tell her your favorite is 'whatever'. Mine happens to be lasagna. So I tell girls how much I like all the gooey cheese and noodles, etc.. If she doesn't enjoy and like to talk about food I usually walk away. I love eating.

    3. "If we were a couple and I wanted to hang out with my friends to 2 am, how would you feel about that?"
    Here you are point blank telling her the treatment you expect and holding a hoop for her to jump through. If you end up having a LTR with her, she will remember that she agreed not to complain when you stay out late.

    Of course, make up your own questions based on what you like from a girl. But just make sure they are not too easy and that they are interestingly creative questions.

    4. Having Standards

    Step2: Comfort
    The ultimate goal of comfort is both of you can relax together, sharing intimacies without worrying. Before you build comfort, isolate the target from her friends possible, whether physically or verbally. You can suggest introduce her a friend over there. C1 - Building Rapport
    In C1 phase of the Mystery Method M3 Model, you should focus on create a sense of rapport with each other. According to the pickup artists, "the game is played in rapport." Here are some awesome articles related to build rapport.
    1. Style's Eliciting Values Routines
    Style’s EV Routine
    -what is the experience you most enjoy doing? (she'll say dancing or being with family or something)
    -what is the ideal scenario of you doing that thing. descrive it..
    -so picturing that RIGHT NOW, how do you feel.. what emotions?
    -"so really then, while I was asking you this, you smiled.. and yeah its kind of because I'm being a bit funny or weird or whatever.. but also, its because you could kind of feel that emotion right now, while we were talking about it.. can you feel it.. blah blah"
    -so really then, even though your favourite experience is dancing, your core value is fun and excitement.. So what's most important to you is the experience of fun and excitement, and whatever leads you to that is most important.. blah blah
    -OK, so in 4 minutes we've fulfilled your quest for core value. You can die now.

    2. The Question Game: 6 New Questions To Build Rapport
    6 Interview Questions
    1. You must plan your own death. How old are you? How does it happen? And what is the funeral like?
    Interpretation: Talking about how you would like to die says a lot about how you would like to live. This is a great point of reference for commonality. Finding someone who wants to live like you want to live is really special. Most of us aren't living as we'd like to, sharing that desire brings you that much closer to achieving it.

    2. You can be any animal. What are you? You can marry any animal except your own species. What kind of animal do you marry?
    Interpretation: Confident people pick animals who possess qualities they like about themselves. Insecure people pick animals they admire. When selecting an animal for their spouse, they usually select an animal that is least like their last or current BF. For instance, if she says she would be a dolphin it means she admires freedom, intelligence, cuteness, beauty. If she chooses a dog for her spouse's animal, it means that she abhors disloyalty and her ex probably cheated on her.

    3. You can pick your parents from any point in time; they can be real or fictional. Who are they?
    Interpretation: Only those most comfortable with themselves and their families will answer with their own parents. The person's choices for her parents often reflect the qualities and/or conditions that were absent in her upbringing. Rather than draw attention to this, point out that fact that these are qualities which they want to instill in their own children. For instance if her dad was Einstein, she would like her children to be smart and great thinkers. If she wants her mother to be Amelia Earhart, she wants her children to have independence.

    4. We have found a stargate and you can travel to any location and time. To what 3 places would you go? OK. Now, what if once you cross through, you learn you cannot return? In which of the three places would you stay?
    Interpretation: The places in time and space people choose tell you what kinds of feelings they want to feel when they are free of limits and stressors in their lives. If they choose Mars, they like to feel discovery and newness. If they choose prehistoric Earth, they like uncertainty and danger. The place they decide to stay often represents the extreme feelings they are most comfortable with. For instance if their third option was Antarctica, they are most comfortable feeling alone, versus discovery or danger.

    5. If you had to have a tattoo, what and where would it be?
    Interpretation: Tattoos represent permanence. In this day and age, many young people have tattoos, so they will probably show you theirs. This is good, but not the point of the exercise. Let them show it to you. But ask them if they get another one. The symbol or picture holds great meaning to them. The location they would get it likely represents a point of vulnerability to them, or perhaps their sense of style. It's up to you to decide which it is.

    6. You can invite five people to dinner, real or fictional, from any place or time. Who do you invite to dinner and why?
    Interpretation: The five people question is the hardest to sort out. You will be tempted to analyze the significance of each one. Don't do this, as it is not the point. Instead, the five people represent what the person finds attractive or interesting within a group. For instance, if she picks a diverse group of men and women, she prefers a variety of friends and interests. If she picks all important people, such as actors and celebrities, she is more concerned with high social value. If she picks all people that will get along, she likes everyone to be comfortable and happy. If, like me, she picks people deliberately to spark controversy and debate...well, you get the picture.

    3. Using The Lying Game to build rapport
    You: Hey, are you a good lier ?
    HB : what ?
    You: can you lie, like (turns to other HB), is she a good lier ?
    HB_Other : yes! she is a fantastic lier! / No, she can't lie.
    You: Is that right? well lets see. Ok, you are going to tell me three things. One of them will be a lie. Ok ?
    HB : Ok.
    You: right.. you are going to tell me.... umm.. a place you have always wanted to visit. Ummm a shop you like going to... and.... the name of the first guy you slept with, or girl...
    (HB raises eyebrow)
    You: ok guy. So that's three things, place to visit, shop you like and first guy you slept with. Ok ?
    (the whole table is now looking at her)
    HB : ok.
    You: ok... hold on, take it slow, think about it you have to try and be as convincing as you can...
    (she tells.. you try and pick the lie... you get the idea.)

    Then usually someone goes "MY Turn!" and if they say to you "Your turn" you go "Are you kidding, I am not playing some silly lie game", then turn to your wing "Yeah like _I_ and going to play some lie game, these people are crazy". Then go get a drink or something and let them think about what a fun guy you are. .... .... .... you get the idea.

    C2 - Building an Emotional and Physical Connection
    In this step, you must create a emotional connection with the target at first. Here are some routines to create a emotional connection:

    1. Esp Routine
    See Above

    2. the cube
    See the Cube Routine

    3. Three Smiles Routine
    Any time the chick smiles, you can run this routine. It's best used once you've established that you are cool, and that you are quite attractive to her.
    "Hey... you know... you have three smiles." (usually, she'll smile in response to this) "and there's a fourth!" (she'll probably ask something, and then you improvise along the lines of the following) "Yeah, that was your 'I'm flattered' smile, and then you have a... um, not fake... but a polite smile... then there's this really genuine smile when you laugh, and your whole face lights up. Then there's this smug, 'hey this guy fancies me' smile. I've a feeling I might see that a lot."

    Guaranteed to make girls fall in love with you. This is the sweetest thing anyone has ever told them. They will remember it and think about it when you are gone.

    4. The question Game
    You: Let's play the question game.
    Her: What's the question game?
    You: Well, it's like Truth or Dare but without the Dare, because I don't know how weird you are yet! The questions have to be good ones, no where do you work bullshit, ok? You go first!
    Her: I can't think of anything!
    You: Ok, how many boyfriends have you had?
    From there the questions will get deeper and more sexual as the game goes along. Then after you have been playing for a few minutes, when it's your turn you can say
    You: I have a good question for you…Would you like to kiss me?
    Her: I don't know
    You: Let's find out!
    You: I thought so!
    Don't go overboard with the sexual questions though. Asking even one of the above questions might do just fine, especially if she responds positively, which is your cue that she would also be ready for the final question.

    And then you can escalate to physical connection. Here are some routines:
    1. Evolution Phase Shift Routine
    1. I tell her that she smells good and ask what she is wearing. Then I lean in, brush her hair aside, and sniff her slowly, moving up from the shoulder to the ear. "Mmmm, that smells good. People don't pay enough attention to smell. But you'll notice how animals, before they mate, will always smell each other. Evolution has hard-wired us to respond to certain things. You are wired to respond when someone smells you."

    2. "It's like when someone pulls the back of your hair. You'll notice how lions, when they mate, always bite and tug at the end of each other's mane, right here." (Since I'm shaved bald, I'll add here, "This is what I miss the most about not having hair"; if you have hair, say, "This is one of my favorite things".) Then I run my hand up the back of her neck and grab a fistful of hair at the roots and pull it, downwards. She says "Mmmm..." And I say "see."

    3. Then I talk about how "No one knows this, but the most sensitive places on the body are places that are usually hidden from contact with the air, like the back of the elbow (touching it) and knee (touching it). Any place where your body bends, twists, or folds, there are millions of sensitive little nerve endings that release endorphins. Then I take her arm, bend it a little, and erotically bite the area on the opposite side of the elbow (that crease where it bends). She usually gets the chills, and I have her ratify how good it feels.

    [Note for the less experienced: If you don't know how to erotically bite a girl, learn before you do this. You want to take a big chunk of skin -- not a little pinch! â€" and slowly and firmly slide your teeth together until they meet and release the skin. You may want to practice on your own elbow first.]

    4. After, I say, "But do you know what the best thing in the world is?...A " And I point to the side of my neck. (Every now and then, I'll add, that "this has to do with the fact that it is where the jugular vein is most exposed, and since most sexual fantasies have to do with submission and vulnerability, it sends all the fantasy signals flying.") Then I'll expose my neck and say, "Bite me right here" as if I expect her to do it. Fifty percent of the time she will. If she doesn't, I just turn away calmly (punish), wait a few seconds, and then turn back and repeat, "Bite me right here." Usually she will.

    5. Half the time, her bite is lame. If so, I correct her and say, "That's not how you bite. Come here." Then I give her a good bite on the neck and instruct her to "try again." This time, she ALWAYS does a great job.

    6. Now you look her in the eye, smile mischievously/approvingly, and say, very slowly, "not bad." Then glance down at her mouth, back up at her eyes, and...yes...finally. you want...and if she's!

    2. Kino-tests
    An interesting phenomenon is that when you touch girls who like you, they always go out of their way to touch back.. It seems to be some sort of subconscious mating mechanism..
    When I go around the club high-fiving chicks, the ones who want me will ALWAYS try to clasp my hand and keep me there.. I have literally gone up to a chick, high-fived her, and when she clasped my hand I started tonguing her down (before I've even said one word to her).. This has happened a few times now.

    If I caveman a chick, she'll tickle me back and shit like that. I pulled a go-go dancer from Guvernment one night with Twentysix, Papa, and No9, just by tickling this chick (It was too loud to talk, so I said "fuck this!" and just started going caveman on every chick that passed me, until I pulled). She tickled back, and knowing that the kino test had been POSITIVE, I just literally DRAGGED her out of the club, barely haven spoken a word to her. Literally, I tickled and DRAGGED her from the club. Her friends weren't there - obviously (massive warehouse club). She loved it. Point is though, how did I know I could get away with it? Or the insta-tongue-downs? Just by KINO TESTS.

    When I do kino opener, sometimes I'll roll up on girls and ask a quick question, then say "you're my new best friend" and wrap my arms around her.. if she's digging me she'll almost always wrap her arm back around me, even if she's in shock for a second and has to do it after when its not really timed properly..

    Chicks will also do weird things, like if you hold her hands, and turn around and drop your hands, she'll keep her hands RIGHT THERE in the hopes that you'll re-initiate the kino.

    Another good test is to clasp hands mercy fight style, and then lower them waist level and see if she keeps it going.

    Or butting heads softly/gently, and see if she leans in or not.

    ***A really interesting thing that I've also noticed is girls UNWILLINGNESS to displace themselves physically in ANY WAY WHATSOEVER until they are into you (usually attraction, but sometimes also with deep rapport).

    So basically, you may notice stuff like if you try to do the spin-maneuver on a chick who thinks badly of you, she'll refuse to spin. If you say to a chick "your arms are crossed.. you look uptight", and she isn't attracted yet, she'll REFUSE to uncross them.. Literally, she'll keep saying "I'm cold" and she won't uncross them for ANYTHING. Same thing when you suggest moving venues. If they don't like you, it will NOT happen. Chicks just won't displace themselves for guys they don't like.

    If you try to make a physical move too early in the sarge, you have fucked up the sequence, and the sarge often ends.

    HOWEVER, sometimes girls will mumble shit like "not yet", or they might decline a #close or something, but STILL keep flirting and talking to you. That seems to be a subconscious way of saying "I'm not wet enough yet, but if you keep sarging me I may be there soon".

    C3- Intimacy
    The C3 location is at a sex location. So the kissing turns into heavey making-out and etc, and you guys are alone, it's time to choose the game.

    Step3: Seduction
    S1 - Foreplay
    Make sure you have built enough comfort before you get the HB into a sex location. And then do your things…

    S2 - LMR
    LMR stands for Last Minute Resistance. Once you have it, she may say "we should stop ..." or "We better be careful about where this is going". Some general tactics for LMR have always been:

    1. Using Freeze-Out to Overcome LMR
    If last-minute resistance seems insurmountable, do a freeze-out:
    Turn on the light, snuff out the candle, check your e-mail, head to the kitchen to make a sandwich, or pull out a checkerboard and challenge her to a game. The power of this is in its sincere delivery. If you were sulking or angry, that would show that you were affected. Just act as if your arousal circuitry has simply been shut off. She will feel the sense of loss and will allow herself to raise her LMR threshold level.

    2. Busting Last Minute Resistance using Style's famous story
    Once upon a time, there was this guy...who was walking down the street...and there was a beautiful girl that was walking down the street towards him. And when they saw each other, they stopped...and deciding to start talking. It was a totally natural and spontaneous thing and it wasn't something that these people usually do. It just happened.

    And these people just connected with each other on every word and at every level. It was as if, they had already known each other for so long, even though they had only known each other a matter of minutes...but it soon came a couple hours. And the incredible connection these two made was so strong it was as if there was a glowing light between these two people. So it was then that they decided that their meeting must be FATE.

    To test this out, the two went on their separate ways...and decided that if they would meet again, they would KNOW for sure that it was their DESTINY to be together. So they departed. They went on their separate ways.

    And as the years passed, a plague hit their city. And many people died.

    And years later...there was this guy...who was walking down the street...and there was a beautiful girl that was walking down the street towards him. And as they passed each other, both people recalled a faint glimpse of a memory of having seen each other before. But they continued walking their own separate ways...THE END

    3. Ignore it and keep going. (-you're right, we should stop)

    S3 – Sex
    Have fun!

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    this is still good content keyboard

    thank you Ambition

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    im learning from masters!!

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    Like the breakdown. This def helps make things a little logical to draw on while running a set.

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    Awesome, very concise. Love it.

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    Nice dude. This rocks. It's massive of you to share.

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    MM is not outdated and stale. The MATERIAL may be outdated and stale, but the STRUCTURE is not.

    I still have found very few systems that model the course of seduction as accurately as MM.

    Even more modern methods still use much the same structure that Mystery pioneered.

    Attraction Phase is still Attraction Phase whether you go in with jealous girlfriend or best friends test or whatever. The material should be our own creation, which never gets old or stale.

    rapport is still Rapport Phase and so on.

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