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    Default Re: Does indirect daygame work?

    Quote Originally Posted by purplelake02 View Post
    Hi guys,
    I work every weekday between 9-18. I dont have much time to approach alot of women. I go mostly to grocery stores and bookstores after the work. Unfortunately, finding an alone girl and approaching her indirectly takes much time. So, Im able to approach at most 1 girl or nothing.

    What is your strategy for Indirect Game, how can we approach more women. Finding cute and alone girl is not easy. If I find this girl, I miss the opportunity, if im hesitant.

    Then, only alternative is street game. However, in streets im not sure indirect game work..

    What are your experiences on indirect game? Do you have any strategy? Lets share our experiences here..

    The most effective and efficient way to meet women is to be Direct, real and honest with them. If you want to be consistently successful with women, you need to be Direct; there is no way to be consistently successful by being indirect.

    Direct works best for the following reasons:

    1) It immediately establishes a sexual dynamic to the interaction and brings out a girl's sexual side,

    2) It allows you to figure out which girls are sexually attracted to you vs those who are not,

    3) It helps you avoid the 'friend zone',

    4) It saves you time, money and emotional heartache,

    The main pitfalls of indirect approaches are as follows:

    1) Indirect approaches tend to establish more of a platonic or 'entertainment' sort of dynamic to the interaction, rather than a sexual dynamic,

    2) Indirect approaches leave you susceptible to falling straight into the 'friend zone',

    3) When you are indirect, it's tricky to figure out which girls are attracted to you sexually vs those who are not,

    4) Indirect causes you to waste time, money and emotional energy pursuing women who are not genuinely sexually attracted to you, and generally leaves guys frustrated,

    5) Indirect leaves the door wide open for women to play games with you and manipulate you.

    As far I'm concerned, being indirect with women is just a friendly conversation. You are not actually picking a girl up if you approach and interact with her in an indirect manner. The only real way to have consistent romantic/sexual success with women is to be Direct.

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    Default Re: Does indirect daygame work?

    Quote Originally Posted by BeDirectWithWomen View Post
    The most effective and efficient way to meet women is to be Direct, real and honest with them. If you want to be consistently successful with women, you need to be Direct; there is no way to be consistently successful by being indirect.

    Direct works best for the following reasons:

    1) It immediately establishes a sexual dynamic to the interaction and brings out a girl's sexual side,

    2) It allows you to figure out which girls are sexually attracted to you vs those who are not,

    3) It helps you avoid the 'friend zone',

    4) It saves you time, money and emotional heartache,

    The main pitfalls of indirect approaches are as follows:

    1) Indirect approaches tend to establish more of a platonic or 'entertainment' sort of dynamic to the interaction, rather than a sexual dynamic,

    2) Indirect approaches leave you susceptible to falling straight into the 'friend zone',

    3) When you are indirect, it's tricky to figure out which girls are attracted to you sexually vs those who are not,

    4) Indirect causes you to waste time, money and emotional energy pursuing women who are not genuinely sexually attracted to you, and generally leaves guys frustrated,

    5) Indirect leaves the door wide open for women to play games with you and manipulate you.

    As far I'm concerned, being indirect with women is just a friendly conversation. You are not actually picking a girl up if you approach and interact with her in an indirect manner. The only real way to have consistent romantic/sexual success with women is to be Direct.
    And that, my friends, explains the username

    PS: For the record I don't fully agree with this. You need a balance between the two. Same as in writing you can have poetry (say indirect speech) and reports (say direct speech), life would be boring if it lacked one of the two.
    Veni, vidi, vici.

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    Default Re: Does indirect daygame work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jok3r View Post
    And that, my friends, explains the username

    PS: For the record I don't fully agree with this. You need a balance between the two. Same as in writing you can have poetry (say indirect speech) and reports (say direct speech), life would be boring if it lacked one of the two.
    It seems you have a bit of confusion about what Direct is, so let me clarify that for you....

    Being Direct with women is not synonymous with being 'boring'.

    What bores women is when guys are too 'friendly', too 'nice', not sexual enough, and engage in far too much small talk....I.e. indirect interactions.

    Also, Direct doesn't mean you can't have a longer conversation with a woman. A lot of guys mistakenly believe Direct means you spout out one sentence to a girl and never say anything beyond that. Hence I can understand your confusion here, as it seems that's what you think Direct is.

    It's possible to be Direct with a woman whilst also having a longer, interesting conversation and getting to know her. If a Direct guy wanted to do this, he would let the girl know his intentions right from the start, and then carry on the conversation and get to know her after that.

    So it's not true that Direct is 'boring'.

    I hope that clarifies your confusion. Good luck.

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    Default Re: Does indirect daygame work?

    Direct Game
    +Sorts the wheat from the chaff. If you straight up tell a girl she was hot and that's the reason you're talking to her, it goes one of two ways. She's extremely flattered, digs your confidence and is into you or she makes excuses ("I've got a boyfriend", "Ew, fuck off creeper"). Straight away you know where you stand.

    +You won't waste your time working out whether she's into you or not. You'll know already by the reaction.

    +If a girl is into you from a direct approach, she'll be that much more attracted because of how brazen and confident you are. Although we have a massive community, we're world-wide and unless she's a club hopper it's very unlikely strangers will just approach her in broad day light.

    -It takes planet-sized testicles, which I will be the first to put my hand up and say I struggle to have. It takes guts to stare down a loaded gun.

    -Some people will be used to it. If your fundamentals aren't down, you can't hold a good conversation and you can't do the rest then your brass will be for nought.

    Indirect Game
    +Doesn't take as much confidence to ask someone for directions and then ease into the game.

    +Doesn't put girls on the spot. Indirect Game gives a girl more of a chance to figure out whether or not she wants to sleep with you which could be a good thing or a bad thing. She may flat-out reject you on instinct with direct game but if your fundamentals are there, you can build on in-direct approach.

    -You can waste a lot of time having a great conversation with a girl who's flat out not into you.

    For me, Direct Game is the way. I used to sleaze my way into conversations with arbirtrary questions about where some fictional café is but frankly, it's a lot quicker, a lot less time-wastey (believe me, I've wasted enough already) and a lot more successful if you just come right out with it. It's all down to your confidence levels.

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    Default Re: Does indirect daygame work?

    I never said direct is boring. I said that overuse of anything gets boring. I like Direct. But one doesn't knock the other off the stage.
    Veni, vidi, vici.

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    Default Re: Does indirect daygame work?

    Hey man, I understand your situation.

    A lot of these guys are right. I mean there is never a for sure thing and if your fantastic then anything will work. But we all don't start out fantastic...

    Direct is the way to go for the many reasons mentioned above. I've done indirect, but it's easy when you have a dog. I mean really, your dog sniffs there dog and before you know if your in. But seriously, direct takes balls the size of the man himself "Tony Montana" and is easily attainable with experience.

    I see the hidden question amongst your post. What you really want to know is....Where do I go to increase volume? Really this question is gold. Where are all the fish going to be today lol. The short answer is "outside". Spring, Summer and Fall, get your butt outside. If you need a book then go to the bookstore, hungry? Go to the grocery store. But get outside as often as possible, walk everywhere. Or another few options are to find a high traffic area and sit outside a coffee shop or patio. Make small talk with the people around you and just wait.

    Ideally I would absolutely love it if the grocery store were filled with woman, my GOD man how easy that would be. Get used to approaching direct outside or for that matter anywhere. I'm a selective guy and when I see a hottie I drop everything and go for it. Don't worry about the people around you as they will walk past and everyone else walking will just think you both know each other.


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