Well call it what you will but there is still a point where a HB will put you in the "no fly zone" when you first meet them. It is truely hard to recover from this and this is usually when they say they have a BF. For instance...
HB9 Cocktail Waitress
HER: "What are you doing later?" (trying to hook up but I badly screwed this up with a auto-rejection)
HER: "Will I see you again soon love like next weekend?"
After I did an epic fail by waiting till after leaving the Club to try and hook up she marked me down as "no fly zone". She asked what the heck I was talking about, left on vacation for two weeks, said she had a BF and now never flirts with me anymore. I should have tried to hook up that night at the Club but because I acted too slow I lost her. She stopped calling me love as well.
So essentially I don't know but I think when you meet a new girl and they don't throw out the BF card right away you have a lot more leway to game them. If I would have been more Alpha with the Cocktail Waitress that night it would have gone a lot better. But I notice once a girl brings up the BF thing to me they always bring him up like it's not going away and that pretty much kills my mojo. Ever since the Cocktail Waitress told me that she brings up the BF all the time and stopped trying to hook up so we are just friends to her. So I think if the BF thing isn't brought up by you or her and she hasn't put you in the no fly zone then there is still a bit of intrigue going on and you can still have a better chance. During the initial phases where they are curious about you, trying to hook up, flirting all the time, etc they want you. But I noticed when they mention the BF thing or I act at the wrong time to make something happen or wait too long then the flirting stops, the intrigue stops, and it's pretty much just like a friendship where they are no longer interested.
But if you get put in the no fly zone and you think there is a way to recover Swagman I would sure like to know how you think of accomplishing that for a situation like what I just mentioned.