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    Unhappy HELP! Fear of plowing when I don't receive IOIs right off the bat.

    I used to think this problem came from not having the material to run in set, however, this thought has diminished since I have formulated a routine stack for myself of known good material. I realised the problem lay elsewhere when I thought back and noticed that barely ever actually 'used up' my designated material of the night.

    What happens in my sets is this - I consistently open the set without getting blown out, however, unless the girls give me POSITIVE reactions within the first 30 secs, get scared and eject. That is, even if they still allow me to stay, not giving negative reactions, then I will still eject.

    I realize that I will run my opener, then begin my transition into the eyebrows routine but I haven't once finished it because I always get half way through and feel like I'm 'intruding' so I then stall out and usually eject... if the girl hasn't given me any signs of interest yet.

    As I write this I can see that it is too much me being reaction seeking when I should just plow but I have this feeling of a glass wall set up in my mind where I will not overstep the mark unless given a green light from the girl that it is going to be accepted somewhat!

    I have no trouble escalating when a girl is attracted from my opener, going for the kiss/Kino/whatever - however it's that border from neutral to attracted that I am afraid to cross. This makes me realie that nearly all of my closes have been from 'fools mates' in that the girl was already attracted from the get go and any time I approach it was merely a numbers game rather than any proper manipulation of attraction on my part, which got me the girl.

    It is this crucial stage of 'building value' which I really want to get down because, unless the girl sees value in my approach right away, which is not usually the case on 8+'s, then I will skulk off into the night and feel rejected.

    Can anyone give me tips for getting through this one or is it just a case of FORCING it till I get comfy with plowing?

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    The best way to get over the fear of anything is to attack it straight on and get it out in the light. Many.. many great PUAs are only good cause they plow. I've actually witnessed Joe D (from the Pickup Artist TV show on VH1) plow until he got massive IOIs and attraction at a bar called "Park" in NYC.

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    Default Re: HELP! Fear of plowing when I don't receive IOIs right off the bat.

    Interesting concern.

    1)As its stated, you want the other person to talk, not yourself(plowing).

    2)whenever i see people talk too much, it reminds me of a con-man.

    3)Cool people arent running for popularty contests. thats what makes them cool.

    And! less is always more. also actions speak louder than words(Peacock)

    all that is to say. maybe your doing too much from the start. I would walk up to the group, say "hi, you are all looking nice tonight", wait for thank yous. then walk away. come back after a while and tap the one you like on the shoulder and take her hand to dance, or ask her to step to the side to ask her a question, promptly tease and continue with your seduction!!

    As a plus, using this aproach puts you inline to where you want to be. a perfect first impression


    hope that helps


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