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    Default Re: How to alpha communicate with new exwife.

    Ok bro.....not sure if you guys see it, but every "have a great day"....every "God bless"....every smiley face..... is sarcastic, showing how happy she is, celebratory. She isnt flirting. She's manipulating. It seems at least to me that she is doing the EXACT things alpha males do. She's a head nurse used to giving orders.

    I won't bring up cruise....I don't need passport anyway.

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    Default Re: How to alpha communicate with new exwife.

    I just need to ignore her as much as possible. It's always worked before, but this will be tough with child exchanges every week. More examples of her male mentality....I read stuff here and she does it exactly....she even turns it around on me...And she projects saying I was ugly. It was both ways.






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    Default Re: How to alpha communicate with new exwife.

    ..u have to apply the material and stop hindering yourself
    you made her laugh when you used the barbie doll thing.this signifies that if you build attraction it would work(att increased there)asking a woman opinion or finding out subtly as to seek a reaction from her is dlv.don't allow yourself to do that.

    Never
    ask honey what you think of this.what do you wanna do..is that ok.LEAD.if she is not right with one thing she will let you know

    Also Don't
    are you mad?are you mad? too much off this then lower attraction.yu are building momentum don't slack off.now lets talk about some frames i want you to employ.
    let yourself go cuz time is also a factor.if you follow att it could happen in 3 days/less...RED HOT ATTRACTION.

    I have met few people like you who mistaken anything their strong women say to be against them.get out of that frame.what you can use to take control of the situation lies in you.get in touch with it.
    if you haven't communicated with her and the last message was prev post send her that if you may.she has this nature to take care of people.its their nature(those ones)(she even said you could have a relationship after divorce which you stated).we will work with this to trigger more attraction that lies deep with your personality.Now we need to start something time is flying.frankly you need no zero contact.in your dynamics you can't avoid her.BUILD ATTRACTION.
    you may have wanted her to show some emotion(divorce period) as a sort of validation and she catches on.she being psyched up by family or something.man be straight and go for it.once you hit the attraction phase which you will it won't matter

    frames
    I do not need validation from my wife i get value being the man that am and i'm attractive inside out.i'm going to get in touch with more of that..my persona..

    When a woman is attracted nothing almost matters why?the object is seen as the prize

    When my wife tests me she is doing so to see the man i am any woman may do that if need be or maybe not .lemmie pass and decide where i want to go with this.she may become more attracted more time for my son my terms.

    my wife is the strong type because she has had to have this dominant frame throughout her life it was not her fault it is her mental mechanism.am going to keep being the attractive guy and bond with her.how?create and build attraction amp it.

    To get keep this woman for a long time i must rebuild the structures of my relationship by making sure i hit the side of her the wants to be there for me.support me. she wants to.its her nature via att


    I have had a mentality that has hindered me from seeing whats in from of me am going to change this so i can have my son and my wife in my life.all it requires is taking action and using whats in me to build using material

    You are very close to garnering what you want.You have bit of attraction.the above frames should help, go over them man.use what inside of you its in your power via the material.That laughter was genuine on barbie issue.BELIEVE.Todd built attraction because he followed structures and won't let this fall.She never wanted out.fix the whole in the relation.it could happen in a few secs to less than 3 days.

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    Default Re: How to alpha communicate with new exwife.

    thx for all the great insight Hardrock...but i dont think im conveying how she is.

    So today i expected to have him for the 90 minutes she kept on wednesday. Thinking she might pull something like show up at my house at 8am sharp, i left early for breakfast. Sure enough she was coming down the road and pulled into my house while i drove away.

    The text exchange begins..."Good news! Im here early". I said...."Did u forget sweetie?...9:30". She says she didnt agree to give me back those 90 minutes, and i better go back home because she was there with the police. I took my time eating breakfast with my son. I then wanted to hold her to our court order which said exchanges would be at a Starbucks farther away, but she wouldnt leave my house, and i had to go to work. So this whack job reminds me why i wanted a divorce. The dust hasnt settled and she is still playing juvenile high school games with me and my son.

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    Default Re: How to alpha communicate with new exwife.

    Good you left her at the house eventually
    you need to get rid of this sort of get back at her mentality.she doesn't decide how long you see yur son, don't give her that power(trying to get back).you could have even invited her to breakfast making it seem it was normal.if refused say well you could wait cuz xyz is going on we will be with you shortly why don't you come.if no then say cool.she tried to bait you kind of like she predicted in her mind yu may do that.its ok to experience these things so with time you could breeze through more.rem RED HOT ATTRACTION
    The games on your son and you are because she liked the idea you were her husband, and she is using it as a means to get back to you.don't be bothered, it shows you had a great effect on her..

    The thing to never do is try to keep track on things you done for her implying she must do for you.e.g.i did xy for you so do this.you could have done it this way don't you remember i did this.
    you kept the baby so i'll keep it this time.instead call her out on Sh1t Test . you could have used the barbie jokes or the year long.
    lol..barbie doll got jokes how cute
    well i may keep him for a year long who knows maybe but yh
    OMG!You must have woken up early for this

    I took my time eating breakfast with my son.

    Lol barbie doll had jokes how cute..i almost threw you over my shoulder today then outside so that i could see you off whilst spanking you hard as you get into my car but i held restraint.
    I have said this before i took ker of that for both get over it.am the kind i keep stuff to myself i had a clear goal in mind always (not that).As for son i may come for him all year long who knows maybe with yu or not but yh.noticed something about you

    do copy word for word
    keep sweetie and stuff out for now it kinda lowers att subtly..there will be more time for that.

    She came to see you today sort of.its a good sign.
    she could have sent for her mom or maybe she wanted to see the new house either way, she chose to be there in person and frankly it make this a bit easier.if you passed sh1t test and got her to your house why not ATTRACT more

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    Default Re: How to alpha communicate with new exwife.

    There are a few pointers i would like to.the other time i had to post them since what the dynamic has done has presented an opportunity to we could weave in.

    first of all your wives actions revealed some very important information.

    what you must make yourself not to do

    don't go implying you understand she loves you and is play ing games becos of divorce or son and you will be here forever to take care of things.that would be the death of almost everything.we will use the structures instead

    Anything that you may consider a bit too much should be avoided at this time.am not saying you will but considering you have been with this woman for a bit and part of you may want to let go.. its normal am not surprised you even call her sweet heart etc.lets focus on the main

    heres is a break down of text i suggested to you and what you would elicit and high points you may hit.Had to write that quickly reason stated previously.Rem there are other things we must hit too.one thing can't slove it all.you may also rejuvenate your relation, starting with an affair then movin forward from there.

    Lol barbie doll had jokes how cute..
    First the should let her know you know something fishy might have been going on and you are unaffected.it doesn't matter how you think you did.this could get that effect.think of frames.

    i almost threw you over my shoulder today then outside so that i could see you off whilst spanking you hard as you get into my car but i held restraint.
    this should get you kicked out of my house and could get you spanked.she may have the shocked look on her face but then it signifies you u are being playful thus showing you wnt take that.but handled your self well.this also lets her know in a weird way you ker about her and maybe she is special becos she takes care of your son and didn't get thrown out barely.

    I have said this before i took ker of that for both get over it.
    This creates the frame where you are the guy that would take care of things and should get her open to the idea of framing both of you with the child together if she wishes.

    am the kind i keep stuff to myself i had a clear goal in mind always (not that).
    i noticed you may be a bit reserved which not bad at all and the clear goal should counter the fact that you had a plan(divorce) but maybe you didn't mind three being together at all.

    As for son i may come for him all year long who knows maybe with yu or not but yh.noticed something about you
    this is a frame you have that you are communicating that you spend time with your son as much as you want(even though ..)adding her brings the 3 of you(she won't feel left out)and noticed something about you along with other things stated could leave her to ask questions.which signifies attraction if she does.even if she doesn't remain calm the goal is to get that to her.level 1.

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    Default Re: How to alpha communicate with new exwife.

    Going to be tough.....I was talking down to her by text calling her sweetie and saying I wasn't playing her high school games. Im sure she wasnt happy. Then saying I was going to hold her to the court ordered exchange location because she was at my house with police, and her replying that I wasn't going to make her drive around everywhere....she made me drive 45 minutes to pick up my son for 6 months during the custody trial.

    I like the spanking comments...lowers her value.

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    Default Re: How to alpha communicate with new exwife.

    If this is really going to work you need to follow the structures.your wife is not some girl that you are now picking up there are other things you must hit too.calling her sweetie , honey should be swapped out.It lowers your value somewhat.
    I am responsible(bro) for letting you know that truth and what works.am not going to hide what you must know from you but the more you hit high then land with a bit low points(calling sweet, more below) it could take more time or could make her draw an impression in her mind.it the death zone we want to avoid this.

    saying I wasn't playing her high school games.
    calling her out and adding high school games is a dlv to girls. she shouldn't be happy about this.let alone talk of having high esteem.

    Then saying I was going to hold her to the court ordered exchange location because she was at my house with police

    You must have been affected by this i get that.for now take it with a grain of salt.the only way to not fail is not feature.She may have done that for a reason.whichever way its irrelevant to our end goal.

    meeting women is in phases.one thing get you the next.one wrong thing could shot you down..i have seen a dynamic where a woman has been hurt by a man she was involved in.this makes her emotionally distant(structures heal)
    and sometimes one must accept their mistake and take responsibility for them.
    whenever you feel like letting go another thing you can do is remember yourself of the obvious fact of what you did and what happened.you can fix this.
    Next line of action will be determined amid other factors by what is currently on ground.That said its ok to make mistakes but i know you a smart guy and won't dwell on them.the above should be fine.we can't afford the wrongs things too much.focus more on structures.

    OMG!You must have woken up early for that day..lol,the other day i felt like passing extending a hand through the phone and spanking you lightly and a few heavy strokes on your back but i held restraint.I have said this before i took ker of that for both get over it.am the kind i may keep stuff to myself i had a clear goal in mind always (not that)As for son i may come for him all year long who knows maybe with yu or not but yh...noticed this thing about you..

    This is a betweener text but must be sent today unedited.i could have suggested you handle a few but this works with ALL levels.even though you handled that Sh1t Test the other time if all levels are not normalized the next may produce half results or worse the other which is not what we want.

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    Default Re: How to alpha communicate with new exwife.

    one more thing no matter what you do not communicate neediness, calling her out on her shit tests by implying its high school games, telling her or implying you love her yet.

    With the above parameters all should be fine even if theres a slight change in dynamic.when you feel like she is insulting you or giving you a bit pressure one thing you can do is cut the conversation and say you have to get going.
    Anything that implies you have to go in a cool calm tone should be fine.Another thing to that is handle it as a shit test and deal with it accordingly don't insult her though.

    am assuming you may have talked to her before previous post since baby issue.whatever happens you may blog about it here if you may.this could work out...

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    Default Re: How to alpha communicate with new exwife.

    Not much has happened. She had him for 13 days vacation and there was no contact by either of us. Before she left to Tampa we had this exchange by email.....the most recent stuff is first so start from the bottom........



    Are you ok?....you capitalized HIM....I get that you are still emotional.....The divorce has been a good thing but you are still lashing out and trying to manipulate. *I dont feel a need to contact you so relax. *

    On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:55 PM, Todd
    wrote:

    LMAO......ok hun, you are right
    --------------------------------------------
    On Wed, 7/17/13, Carol

    Subject: Re: Vacation notification reminder.
    To: "Todd
    Date: Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 2:12 PM

    You know what...you haven't been
    trustworthy. So for the sake of avoiding any
    misunderstanding lets keep it as we previously agreed and we
    just have to think it through for next summer. But now that
    his talking more and FaceTime is available feel free to call
    HIM during the time his not with you.

    Good day

    Sent from my iPhone

    On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:55 PM, Todd
    wrote:

    Lol....of course i would as long as i get the days made
    up.* I wouldnt want my son to not see his mother for 13
    days....but dont try to pull one over me ms barbie
    doll.* I dont play that.

    On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Carol
    wrote:

    Yes your days are the same. So you are planning to
    cut your vacation short so I can see him?*

    Sent from my iPhone

    On Jul 17, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Todd
    wrote:

    So i wont see him again until the 29th....13
    days....and the same situation will happen to you in
    August.* Are you sure you want that?

    On Jul 17, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Carol
    wrote:

    I just looked at my days and from the 7/19
    thru 7/26 it's 7 days and my weekend starts 7/26 thru 7/28.
    As I said* I have the time planned already. If I happen
    to return earlier ill let you know and we can exchange some
    days.

    Good day




    I did see her face to face one morning when I picked up my son at her door. She had just woken up and looked it. I was not expecting to see her but her mom must have been sleeping. She isn't a morning person.....looked cranky.

    Ive been working on myself.....gong to church, seeing family psych counsellor there, spending time with my son. Going on Disney cruise Thursday. I'm expecting her to try something before or on the day I get him Wednesday 8am.


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