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    Default HELP I need guidance

    how would you try to pick up a girl lets say in school or the grocery store or even on the ski hill
    because from what i understand from "the game(im refering to the book)" was that you can only truly apply it to clubs.

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    With me, clubs are the least accessible place for the The Game to work. The basic concept behind all of this stuff is that you're not only teaching yourself how to have a conversation with a female total stranger, but also how to program that conversation into going where you want it to go. This can be applied anywhere. Not five minutes ago, I had a conversation with a colleague who just didn't want to give in some things that I needed to get done. Thanks to the game, I knew when to push and when to pull, and in the end I got exactly what I needed out of the deal without him even realizing that I had programmed the conversation that way.

    The reason I say I don't like clubs is that it's usually too loud to talk in a club, and the verbal skills are what excels you in this world. When you are gaming someone, all you are doing is starting a conversation. You can start a conversation with almost anyone if you have the right tools. On a smoke break, talk to the person smoking outside with you about the price of cigarettes. While checking out food at the grocery store, talk to the person at the register about what you're making for dinner that night. When at a restaurant, don't just tell your waitress what you want to eat, but find out how her day is going. All of these are openers, and will give you excellent practice at picking up, even if you're not trying to pick up the people you're talking to (even guys). You'll gain confidence in talking to strangers, picking up on moods and eventually will learn how to adjust your mood and tone to compensate for theirs.

    The thing you have to remember, though, is that an opener is not a conversation. It's a beginning. Put a time limit in your mind, say a minute, and always try to bring in a second conversation thread within that time. Even if you have more to say on the first topic, transition into a new one, and boom, you have a conversation. You can even revisit old threads, and now you have a complex conversation, which is more engaging.

    That's conversation, and like I said, pick up is just learning how to program that conversation. And conversations can literally happen anywhere. The pretty girl waiting behind you in line at Starbucks, the girl waiting for the same bus as you, or just the hot coworker who's having a bad day. If you can start a conversation with these people, you can eventually learn to program it.

    Good luck in the field friend!

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    Hey Ambition
    thanks for the good advice but here are times when i'll be talking to some one most of the time on-line or Via texting and it quite often seems that i tend to ask them about something and it turns in to me interrogating them is there a way to prevent this from happening

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    The best advice I can give on text game is to treat it just like normal pua stuff, except be short and to the point. Before you send a text, reread it and see if you can shorten it. The shorter the better. This will make your texts have longer in between time, which gives off the illusion that you're doing something more important than your current conversation (which may or may not be true), and will leave enough holes that you usually get probed for more information from your target. Be vague, and set yourself up to be asked questions. Trap her into being the one who's more interested in the conversation. If her texts are generally longer than yours and a little more in depth, that means you're winning.

    I find that you can neg more in texts than you can in person (and I neg a lot in person). If I start a conversation or ask a question that I know can lead me somewhere, and she answers it wrong or not as intrusive, just text her back and say "well, if you're scared to give me the real answer, I understand." and then keep going with the scared thing for a minute, but always sound understanding. This will open up some trust avenues as she starts to open up a little more. People are naturally less inhibited through text speak, so if you're looking to build some sexual rapport, this is the place to do it. Just don't be invasive, and always make her be the one who brings it up. Make innuendos, but let her be the one to bring them up.

    And absolute rule number one is that you never ever send more than one text at a time without getting a response. You can break this rule and go to two texts occasionally, but it must be 100% necessary to either complete your last thought (oh, and I forgot that...) or it must be funny.

    Be mysterious and vague in your texts, and don't just ask about her, ask her opinion on things. If you think of a random question or line, test it out in a text.

    Good luck, and keep us posted.

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    Also, both in life and in texts, learn to ask open ended questions. When possible, leave them with many different answers, and try to make it impossible for a monosyllabic answer. Another technique, is to ask them questions that make short responses easy to misinterpret. Not only will they be compelled to write more, to make sure you don't misunderstand, but it gives you something to purposely and playfully misread. That can generate more conversation, a playful atmosphere, and future "jokes" that you can bring up. This is called "anchoring".

    A lot of people take anchoring way overboard in my opinion, but it can be quite useful. If you can establish little inside jokes, nickname, and mini-games, you have an instant touchstone for where you left off before. Not only that, but she will likely immediately be put back in the same emotional state as that previous conversation.

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    This is incredibly helpful
    and one more thing i understand the concept of negging but how do you prevent from taking it too far or not far enough?

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    calibration my friend. It's all about calibration, and it just comes from lots of trial and error. Plan on bombing out a few times and slowly figuring out what works and what doesn't.

    A tip for this: do not put all of your eggs in one basket. Make sure you have at least 3 women you're talking to at all times, and if one ever drops off pick up another immediately. If you are trying to work 3 or more at a time, you won't be so concerned if you accidentally screw up with one of them. You can even include a few girls that you aren't interested in at all, just for practice. You'll find that automatically, if you're not interested in a girl, she'll be more interested in you, and this will lead to even better chances at practicing.

    Keep us posted!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Professer.X View Post
    This is incredibly helpful
    and one more thing i understand the concept of negging but how do you prevent from taking it too far or not far enough?
    Like Ambition said, it takes practice.

    Some things that will help:

    First of all, unless the woman is being a total b*tch, and you need to bring her down a couple pegs, keep the negs light, and say them in a joking manner. This should cover about (98%) of all the negs you ever have to use. Most negs, if done properly, are either backhanded complements, or little jokes, that make fun of the woman in some way, but in a light manner.

    You don't want to second guess yourself, and try to recover from a neg unless you are absolutely sure that she took it the wrong way. Even then, you only want to smooth it over, if it seriously offended her, otherwise, you will look weak, and like you depend on her emotionally.

    Having said that, when you screw up, it is often possible to recover. Sometimes you can just laugh it off as a joke. Other times, you may have to apologize. If you apologize, be sincere, and brief. Then immediately move on.

    Sometimes, the best way to move on from a neg, is another neg. This is especially the case if she deserved the original neg. You say something like, "Geeze, if you are gonna get so bent out of shape at a little joke like that, we can't be friends." Then you turn away. Most of the time, she will immediately snap out of it, and then be anxious to prove herself worthy of you.

    Learning how to neg correctly, is one of the best things you can do, to improve your game. One way to judge how a potential neg will work, is to put yourself in the frame of the cool dude that gets laid all the time. Ask yourself if he would say that to the girl. If she does something inappropriate, a man's man would call her on it, and if she didn't snap out of it, he would lose interest in her. He also wouldn't continue to dwell on the matter after he addressed it. The is how a neg works.

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    Default Re: HELP I need guidance

    How do shit tests work and how do I "deflect" them when put in to action

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    Default Re: HELP I need guidance

    Sh1t tests are when the woman tries to get you to display some sort of weakness or non-alpha behavior so that she can dismiss you. It is her way of weeding out the weak candidates. Generally they will make it appear as if they are head over heals fallen for you, and then they will ask you to do a simple thing for them. It is an example of compliance requests. Sh1t tests are really hard to pick-up on without practice. However, there are some simple rules that will help you avoid most of them. First of all, always ask your self, if an alpha man, who gets laid all the time, would feel the need to do what ever the woman is asking, or go wherever she is trying to lead the conversation. Secondly, if the women all the sudden starts showing more attraction than you know, that you have built, don't act or push on that extra attraction. Like I said, many women will appear to be very attracted in you when the issue a Sh1t Test. So a good rule of thumb is to never capitalize on attraction that you know you didn't generate. Finally, never do what a woman specifically asks you to do, during the initial attraction stage.

    Here are some common sh1t tests:

    Why don't you buy me a drink?
    Let's go over and meet my friends.
    I'm busy right now, here's my number, call me.

    There is a whole thread devoted to these somewhere on this forum.


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