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Thread: Is this a neg and a flirt or a neg and "nice try"?

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    Exclamation Is this a neg and a flirt or a neg and "nice try"?

    There was a girl who graduated 2 years ahead of me, never talked to her or anything, but she goes to my gym.

    She is alone in the aerobics room stretching while listening to her ipod, so just finishing my last provincial of school and feeling Alpha as f**k, I decided to open her.

    I took a big yoga ball then slowly rolled it towards her, hitting her then getting her attention as I walked towards her. "You still going out with Josh?" (her old boyfriend)

    Turns out she was, but I sat down a medicine ball and started talking and flirting anyways with her (I had good body language I believe). She has a slight accent and I negged her lightly on that, then talked about a recent movie and her family. I had gotten about 3 negs in (when I flirt I make fun of certain aspects of her, very light and sometimes couldnt even call them a neg), all of which she responded to well (smile, replied back with a positive response).

    I was just getting up to say my goodbyes when suddenly she said "You know, your really bad at flirting with girls" shit test. She said this while smiling and making eye contact. I replied "Well I can't be that bad if your still smiling" while smiling. She said something along the lines of "Your still pretty bad at flirting with girls" During this we were both standing and my shoulders were facing her. I started to turn away at this point, laughed and said "I'll see you around _____"
    She said "See you!"

    Not too bad, but not amazing as well. Criticism, thoughts, give me some feedback boys

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    Default Re: Is this a neg and a flirt or a neg and "nice try"?

    She may have had a point lol. If you decided to game her then the first thing to realize is NOT ask her if she has a bf or is still seeing such and such. It conveys waaaay too much interest on your part and you didn't even disqualify yourself. Honestly, you should make her a Pivot. She has a bf and she already shows willingness to give her honest opinion on things. She might be able to help. As long as she knows what she's talking about lol.
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    Default Re: Is this a neg and a flirt or a neg and "nice try"?

    Agreed. It takes a lot of studying, observation, and practice, but once you are able to recognize the different IOIs of a girl, and when she is not showing them, then you would know how to act appropriately.

    For example, the other day I was at a food place waiting to get my order. Next to me was this girl who I saw wearing a lanyard of a school that I was quite familiar with. I started up a conversation with her, and I discover a whole ton of sticking points and interesting and fun conversation topics to go off of. However, I did notice that her attention was not fully on me, her body was only slightly angled towards me, and she was constantly looking up to the front register to see where her food was. Knowing that this girl was a dud, I introduced myself, told her I might see her around, and then left for home.

    It's seeing physical cues, and even picking up verbal and emotional cues, that can allow you to figure out what a girl is thinking inside of her noggin. From there, you can use this knowledge to best figure out what you should do next.
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    Default Re: Is this a neg and a flirt or a neg and "nice try"?

    With the "you're really bad at flirting" comment I'd have come back with:

    "who says I was flirting little missy?"

    But yes the above comments are right. Too much interest from the get go. The gym ball bump could have been a nice way to open.

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    Default Re: Is this a neg and a flirt or a neg and "nice try"?

    The goal with her wasn't to pick it up, it was to just make conversation and practice a bit with the game. Thank you all for the pointers, everything helps!

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    Default Re: Is this a neg and a flirt or a neg and "nice try"?

    I get you werent trying to pick up, I do this all the time.

    However I do think the "You know, your really bad at flirting with girls" was indeed a strong ioi and a veiled complaint that you were not escalating.


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