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    Default We've all had this problem!!

    YES IT'S THAT ONE PROBLEM THAT NO ONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT: the girls that don't understand the game and think we're weirdos. I personally am sick of learning to be a PUA when some girls just dot understand what I'm saying and think I'm weird when I use some openers and attraction techniques on them. I know I'm b1tching but I'm sure we all think about this. So tbh I need to start all this over from base one and see how it goes again.
    You lose some you win some, learn from your mistakes and get better!

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    Default Re: We've all had this problem!!

    If They know your doing it, your doing it wrong. It should seem like a natural conversation with an amazing person, Because we all know we are awesome. =)

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    Default Re: We've all had this problem!!

    Yeah but I'm saying its because girls around my age don't have much experience and don't understand what I'm talking about when we talk( immature and I don't want to stoop back to their level because I've been growing up thanks to the PUA community)
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    Default Re: We've all had this problem!!

    well whats your age group? Also, what do you talk about?
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    Default Re: We've all had this problem!!

    Quote Originally Posted by marvilo View Post
    YES IT'S THAT ONE PROBLEM THAT NO ONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT: the girls that don't understand the game and think we're weirdos. I personally am sick of learning to be a PUA when some girls just dot understand what I'm saying and think I'm weird when I use some openers and attraction techniques on them. I know I'm b1tching but I'm sure we all think about this. So tbh I need to start all this over from base one and see how it goes again.

    You seem frustrated maybe facing some hard rejections or rough sh!t tests lately? LOL that stuff happens to us all no matter how on top of your game you are. Even on nights when I am killing it I still get blown out pretty hard too. So don't let this jazz phase you at all. But to help you out let me tell you what I do. It is a little unconventional but oh well.

    I don't run routines. I don't use pick up lines. I don't tell chicks I am a PUA. I don't use techniques well technically I do. Just have it ingrained in me that is so I do use techniques and routines if you want to view it that way.

    Here's the techniques I use (I do most of these without thinking too hard because of practice, studying it, and out of habit)
    Hot & Cold, Push-Pull, Timebridges, Alpha Male, N-close, K-close, F-close, BF comebacks, Hopeless romantic openers, Situational Indirect Openers, direct openers, Approach, Re-approach after IOD, Kino, Re-approach 3-4 times on sets I feel like I can transition, etc.

    Here it is in action and what it looks like in written form.

    HB8 "I have a BF."
    MDJ "Girls ditch their BF's for me all the time."
    HB8 "Gives #"


    MDJ "You are the prettiest girl I seen all night and I really like your butt." (totally weak, half-hearted, and lame, uggh I am usually never this bad.)
    HB10 "Saying I have a nice butt is not going to work."
    MDJ "Well I like a challenge."
    HB10 "Here's your challenge I have a fiance."
    MDJ More banter
    HB10 "I have a BF."
    MDJ "You just told me you have a fiance."
    HB10 "I was lying."
    MDJ "Go home with me."
    HB10 "Go away stop talking to me, you lost."
    (Man that girl was hot, the hottest girl I seen all year, the very poorly executed flirty neg pinged her emotions hard but my game was not rock solid and I totally could never recover with even one single sly reply." My replies sound smooth but trust me her reactions and my reactions I was trying to win her over and seek her approval in a needy way because she never gave me 1 strong IOI just a lot of huffs and puffs which were passive IOI's because she would be upset whenever I left but keep putting up the ice shield and rolling out the most sh!t tests I have ever seen in set. Just IOD after IOD and stuck around and got pissed whenever I left but could never flip this chick because my opener was too hardcore and I never calibrated afterwards just very half-hearted which is why I lost it on the open. She just never stopped talking about me talking about liking her butt. I mean wow nice butt not even joking. But even after I told her I wanted her to be my GF she just never let the butt thing go kept bringing it up and throwing in it my face. She knew my opener was weak and I was trying to recover but she would never give till I showed I could explain away or deal with the bad opener and because I never dealt with it and only tried to ignore it she shunned me.) (By the way that was my first NEG opener and I realized I will only NEG a girl with a flirty NEG not something cold like what many gurus do. A Guru NEG is like hey ugly shoes but I'll take you shopping next time. My method is a little unconventional like I said but it works great in texting and been practicing it there just need more field testing. A flirty NEG is not saying she is the prettiest girl there and has a nice butt. It is playful like You want her really bad but she should work on her figure. Man I wish I would have used that opener instead! So money.)

    MDJ "Hey I didn't want to lose the chance to talk to you."
    HB9 Dimepiece "OMG you are my hero for the night all I have talked to are douchebags in the VIP area, please text me in the morning." (LOL that this chick gets horny in the morning and I don't.)

    MDJ "How wasted are you?"
    HB9 Vip Table Girl "Fark you fark off."
    MDJ "Okay see ya."
    HB9 "No, no sit down."
    MDJ "Okay you just told me to fark off."
    HB9 "You rock, here's my #, go home with me."
    MDJ "Uh no I'll text you." (acting AFC that night, man I suck)

    Or how about my very last set? This one's my favorite, using a new technique I created, haven't got a name for it yet. But it gets them chasing you! Love it see how this girl tries to qualify herself and I just stand there with my shirt off at a EDM Show I just went to and she keeps trying to keep the convo going and checking me out over and over in the process.

    MDJ "Are you smoking a clove?"
    HB9 "Yeah here you can have it."
    My favorite technique right now, go up say a few words and let me chase.
    HB9 "I have a hotel."
    MDJ "Oh really? Maybe I can come there later."
    HB9 "Yeah and I live in la la land."
    MDJ "Oh really I live in no man's land." (can't say where I or her live tbh)
    HB9 "I'm HB9"
    MDJ "MDJ"
    HB9 "I want to party with you."
    MDJ "Maybe."
    HB9 "I have friends."
    MDJ "Cool."
    HB9 "I am older than you." (sh!t test)
    MDJ "I am 30 and I like older women." (screwed up here a little off center and tried to qualify myself)
    HB9 "I am 6 years older than you."
    HB9 "You're only 30?!" (passed the sh!t test, by keeping my frame after screwing up)
    MDJ "N-close"

    More to come.

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    Default Re: We've all had this problem!!

    Not everything that you learn on the forums or as a PUA will apply to yourself. We are all individualistic, and we develop our own personalities and tastes as time goes on and we educate ourselves more in the game. Nothing that I have read of Mystery and Neil Strauss have even been the slightest bit useful to me yet (except the lying-flirting complex).

    If you're really intent on going back through this, then re-read everything. David DeAngelo believes that if we review material that we learned about a while back, it may hold a different meaning than when we read it the first time. This is because our skill and knowledge of being a pua has increased, and now some things that we didn't understand before are understood now.

    In addition, you should review your core beliefs and see if they are truly right and solid. I had some severe meditation time (like five hours) last night where I was changing a crucial core belief I hold about my preferences in women. In the end, it was flawed and needed to be changed, so I did so.

    We can never be too sure that the beliefs that we stick by will remain there forever. In addition, we cannot Isolate and reject outside opinions that may hold some sense. That's why it's important to constantly stay liberal and adapt.
    "There is no better than adversity. Every defeat, every heartbreak, every loss, contains its own seed, its own lesson on how to improve your performance the next time." - Malcolm X

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    Default Re: We've all had this problem!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Swagman View Post
    Not everything that you learn on the forums or as a PUA will apply to yourself. We are all individualistic, and we develop our own personalities and tastes as time goes on and we educate ourselves more in the game. Nothing that I have read of Mystery and Neil Strauss have even been the slightest bit useful to me yet (except the lying-flirting complex).
    ^This. Doing what other people do because it works for them won't get you anywhere. It is all about finding what works for you, and on the way finding who you are.

    Imagine Rocky and Bruce Lee chatting. Rocky tells Bruce Lee "Yeah, I keep taking hits in the face until the guy is tired, then I go for the kill." Bruce Lee thinks it's awesome, and try the same next time. He goes down in 30s, because he doesn't have Rocky's stamina. Does it mean Bruce Lee sucks? Nope. Does it mean Rocky's technique sucks? Nope (well, maybe in that example haha). It means Rocky's technique works for Rocky, but Bruce Lee got to find his own strength and skills.

    That's why there is some truth to the old "Just be yourself" stupid advice you get all the time. It is a stupid advice because if you're a fat beta AFC, being yourself won't get you anywhere. But being someone else will be even worse. So basically, it should be understood as "Be the best possible version of yourself", which is one of the objectives of doing this PUA thing.
    Seduction is a martial art. Reading books and talking to experts is important, and helpful. But you won't progress unless you go out there and fight.

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    Default Re: We've all had this problem!!

    No I don't do things exactly the way other people do because my style is not like other people. I use my own style but take people's words into consideration though. I mean I know it happens to people but dang lol if wish every girl I talked to would be mature and have life experiences lmao( lol I know it's never going to happen but a guy can wish though)
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    Default Re: We've all had this problem!!

    You will need to explain more what's happening. There is litterally no way it would not work "because they are not mature enough". Actually, not mature girls are even more sensitive to all these techniques, as they have no experience, little to no bitch shields and so on.

    I once almost picked up a teenager by accident - just chatting with her, obviously not trying at all, but one almost flirty comment and she got all crazy in 5mn.

    Also, if it doesn't work, it's definitely not because of the girls (as you can't force them to like something they don't), and not of the techniques (as we use them, and well, they work), so there might be an issue with the delivery. So explain what's going on, give us some examples, and we'll see what's the issue.
    Seduction is a martial art. Reading books and talking to experts is important, and helpful. But you won't progress unless you go out there and fight.

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    Default Re: We've all had this problem!!

    Lmao too be honest most of the girls have bf and I start out trying to take them away from them instead of building attraction first. And my jokes are a little bit cocky-funny/ negs a lot
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