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Thread: 30-DAY APPROACH CHALLENGE Why everything except cold approach sucks

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    Default 30-DAY APPROACH CHALLENGE Why everything except cold approach sucks

    I have tried internet dating, getting girls off of facebook, couchsurfing, many websites. They all suck. Yes, I have gotten a girl and farked her, and sh1tloads of numbers that turned into nothing, but it still sucks. For the amount of time I put in, and the number of phone numbers I got, it is a pathetic return on investment. In addition, I see much hotter girls walking around the city streets, all the internet girls are lesser quality than the real-life girls. I think it is because the internet, by definition is a supplicative, lame, AFC tool. It exists for those who are too afraid to get out there, so they can sit in their little cocoons, their homes, and "approach" women, and then jack off to porn when they don't get laid that night. If you think about and analyze the fundamental undertones, and sorts of people the internet attracts, you will see it is not a good thing.



    I have found conquering fears to be one of my biggest things in life, to help me succeed. I feel scared to approach women, not so logically, but when I ponder the idea of walking up to a perfect girl I would love to fark, talking to her out of nowhere, I feel a bit nervous, I start to rationalize "logical" fears as to why I should not approach her such as "what if the other men around me see me getting her, get angry or jealous, and attack me?"



    Why would we not get out and approach women? because we live somewhere there are no hot women? I lived in the usa, and at the time, convinced myself that was such, no quality women I wanted were around me, I was too good for them. I came to mexico, and saw the same sort of rationalizing of not cold approaching, and it was at that point that I realized something. Nobody likes cold approaches. They're extremely painful at first, but if you want the hottest girls, there is no way around this, this is a fundamental organization of human society, an emotion shared across all male brethren.


    I was thinking about: what could we possibly have to be scared of, from other men, compared to the porn industry? Think of all the girls who do porn, where did they come from? surely they must've been girls who other guys liked in childhood, they must have brothers,uncles and fathers. The fact that the porn industry is not being attacked by crazed losers like the abortion clinics is proof that NOTHING you can possibly do, will lead to serious consequences or someone seeking revenge against you, simply for approaching a girl, getting her number, and having sex with her, consentually. If the guys doing all those DP, gangbang, simulated rape sh1t in porn, are not being attacked by angry losers, we shall not be.


    I was thinking, too, why should cold approaches be looked at in a bad way? If cold approaching, that means just living my daily life, doing what I do, going where I go, I will see pretty girls, flirt with them, and get their numbers. I won't need to spend so much time of my day, combing through online dating garbage, scanning girls' profiles for subjects that interest us both. What a farking waste of time, I would rather be researching my investments than researching hot women. This way, I do not go out of my way to approach women, it simply becomes integrated into my persona, my daily activities.




    I see hot women everywhere. I don't know about you, and what rocks you hide under, but I bet you do, too, whether you think so or not. Unless you sit at home all day jacking off, if you leave your house, and go to areas where more than one person congregates, you WILL see some hot women worth approaching, who you would be happy farking. If this is truly not your case, then how will online dating help? if the women are so far away, they're never going to come see you, and if you travel to see them, ugh lets not even go there, every possible direction internet dating can head in, is a bad one. If you REALLY have no hot women around you, then move, I'm sorry friend, is it really worth farking your hillbilly neighbor the rest of your life, JUST to keep your grandaddy's farm? I don't know about you, but more than anything else in my life, I want to fark hot women, I do not want money or anything else, I just want to have domain over lots of women I like.




    THE CHALLENGE


    In the spirit of conquering our collective male fears, and getting the hottest women, we must challenge ourselves to ALWAYS approach ALL women in our vicinity. Too many times, I've looked up to see a beauty briskly walk by. Before I can even think of a possible thing to say, she's gone. Thinking, is our death, in this context.

    I know I am not an absolute master by any means. I am continually conquering AFC tendencies in myself, which our culture seems to value and teach to us. I have not mastered cold-approaches, and that is where you guys come in. I am going to start in one week: friday, june 5th, 2013. For one month, I shall approach, talk to, and get the number of every hot girl I see. That means on the bus, walking down the street, in the supermarket, walmart, 7-11, everywhere.

    This must be done to get the hottest women, because you are an AFC in her eyes, unless you cold approach. There is no other way. Why would you want it to be any different? so we can sit at home on internet dating? That, is not being a PUA, a PUA should be conquering his fears, that is a central part to this whole movement.


    If any of you are real PUAs, and you feel like you haven't yet mastered cold-approaches, then join us and state your intent here. State, briefly (less than a paragraph) why you want to join us, and what you want to become after this month is up, also list your general geographic area, and age. I will come on here, before I start next week, and write down all your names in one post so we'll know who is working together here. I do martial arts, and I feel it is much better than working out individually at the gym. While I don't have the money to fly around and see you guys, we can record our experiences here, post all updates, failures, and successes, here, to help us learn from others' mistakes, and to inspire us to continue on our journey.




    MYSELF:

    I want to join, because I want the hottest girls, and lots of them, and I have realized that will never come about unless I master cold-approaches. I want to be at the level where I see women to approach and think "I have too many hot women in my life right now, to get involved with her" and genuinely NOT want to approach her, not out of fear or AFC-ness, but because I have so many women in my life, I'm sick of them. Just like a drug, you grow a tolerance to. That is my goal. I am currently living in Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico, and I am an 18 year old american who moved here from the San Francisco Bay area, alone, when I was seventeen.




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    Default Re: 30-DAY APPROACH CHALLENGE Why everything except cold approach sucks

    G'day mlano1,

    Just wanna say I am very impressed with the level of insight for your age, honesty in your post, and agree with a lot of the points you have made.

    It seems that many men in society today rely on indirect methods to approach women; They dress outrageously to get attention, they ask for directions, they buy a cute puppy hoping to get a girls attention and the list is endless…; They will pretty much try anything other than walking up to a woman they are attracted to without hiding their intentions, and many will often wonder why they are always stuck in the ‘friend zone’.

    With your level of enthusiasm I am sure you will continue to improve with your approaches, but keep in mind that ‘approaching’ is only one piece of the puzzle, and in addition to being able to do so ‘confidently’ you also want to work on build a ‘connection’ with the women you meet, and ‘sex’ will become many folds better.

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    Default Re: 30-DAY APPROACH CHALLENGE Why everything except cold approach sucks

    Yeah I need this challenge!! I'm hooked on dating sites nowadays and when I see cute females I'm afraid to approach!! I'm going to start daygaming at least once everyday!!
    You lose some you win some, learn from your mistakes and get better!

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    Default Re: 30-DAY APPROACH CHALLENGE Why everything except cold approach sucks

    Well let's get one thing strait mlano1, awesome post. Can't diminish that by any means. You definitely have the right mindset, attitude, and understanding when it comes to the matter of approaching. Let's focus on some key aspects you touched on here. The post was so good and very inspired by this.


    Cold-Approach "No Prisoners Game"
    Your take on the game is basically a "no prisoners" mindset to approaching. Not just going out to approach (thus causing frustration and setbacks) but incorporating approaches into our every day routines and schedules. I have lightly scratched this issue in my past posts but you plain hit the nail on the head. I truly believe the only way to truly overcome aa and master is to overcome the fear of regret (the fear of not approaching) rather than the actual fear of the approach (fear of rejection). The fear of regret is far more powerful and I just counted up my sets again today 82 sets completed and 20 missed sets I contracted AA on and backed out like an AFC. Trust me the regret I feel for not approaching is far worse than the feeling of the worst rejection I have had. And I have been blown out, shut down hard, blown off, dissed, dogged, but the regret is just a sick feeling to my stomach I cannot seem to pass from my system other than doing more quality approaches. Basically in essence what you propose is the perfect strategy and "why" we should get in the game to begin with. Not to have the confidence to "go out" and "pick up" women but literally pick up women wherever we happen to meet them on the street, at Walmart, at the Hair Salon, at Work, at the Mall, at the Movies. All these I listed were areas where I saw hot women but backed out on approaching due to AFC behavior and bad inner game. So we should have a take no prisoners attitude and our approaches will be fearless 24/7 not just up in the Club or Bars which would be a shallow form of game not able to break barriers or grow balls.

    The Lowdown on Approaching
    Secondly we cannot just go "all in" in a manner of speaking into this. If you have that attitude your fight will stop before it even started. You must learn to pull this off with class, skill, manners, understanding, knowledge. You can't just hit up every girl in sight like you are a man on a warpath of sexual anticipation. You must calibrate around your circumstances or risk looking weak, cheap, AFC, stupid, etc. Essentially sometimes better opportunities present themselves than others. Let's take for instance a girl is walking out of the store but almost to her car. You have very little time to act and if you hesitate even 3 seconds you are screwed and look like a total creeper. But if you make it smooth and act like it was just a "natural" happening man are you in there like nothing. It's about the method of your approach as well. If you look too eager you are going to make an absolute dancing monkey out of yourself to entertain the target. Bad way to go every time. You want to do what's right for you too and what feels good to you. If it feels good it will always come across that way but if you are nervous best to exercise caution and approach with caution. Let's take a few examples. You walk into a place where a girl is waiting on you, serving you, or essentially around your vicinity while working. You don't want to down right close this girl on day 1. Man the one thing I learned about getting Bartenders and Cocktail waitresses to come to me was a very simple strategy, become a regular. So if you know the place of a chick's work by happening to run into her there it's better to become a regular there and get a feel for her then close her. Some Hired Guns you could close on the spot if it has a high probability of turnover rate. But you can keep a chick working there just by coming back if she really likes you she won't quit. Better to wait on some girls to close them especially if you know where she works. If your game isn't all that and you fark up the whole entire thing is ruined. You feel AFC and look duchy better to risk the wait and look like you don't care about always closing.

    The Wrap Up
    Basically there is so much to say to what you said but let me wrap it up. After my AA I can approach Night Game almost on a dime and haven't missed a single Night Game set in several months however I have only done roughly 20 day game sets and very rusty in that department and I missed 4 sets last 2 weeks alone! Girl coming out of the gym didn't approach, girl coming out of the hair salon didn't approach, girl walking down the street didn't approach, girl walking into Walmart didn't approach. I was like holy snap they are hot and I just sat there like a douche and did nothing. Like what the fark? Even on my opens I feel regret if my approach is weak, cheap, lame, not well calibrated, etc. So I wish I would open with more veracity and be able channel the energy not in an overly enthusiastic way but a down to earth I'm ready to game this broad hardcore level of game ace up my sleeves type of game. Girls that are hardcore don't like when you ain't hardcore. Girls that are surrounded by friends (3 sets & 4 sets) don't like when you are too half-hearted and aloof unable to harness your energy into controlling the frame (harder on larger sets like this but they make it harder not easier). Girls that are busy don't like being hit on so balantantly, better to calibrate a smooth opener. Best to get a feel for what you feel and do what you feel and not worry what she thinks at least not that much. When I really felt it I mean really really they would just eat it up like I was giving them their favorite flavor of ice cream. I had them eating out of my palm for a little while and made closing essentially effortless and successful. I will take your challenge even though I was going to cut Night Game loose and take a break but I am moving out in a month and back home so can't Night Game but very rarely if ever but I'll take your challenge now since now would be the best time. It starts this weekend!

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    Default Re: 30-DAY APPROACH CHALLENGE Why everything except cold approach sucks

    I fully support any post that talks about action. You want to go out and do it. Too many guys ask about what could happen or what should have happened. Personally I don't need a challenge to go out. I just do it. I surround myself with wings (23 of them) and constantly go out several times a week. I don't hit up every single girl but I always do what scares me and Im always doing things I have never done before. I don't feel aa. Its not a thing I just slowly get out of my head and steamroll through the day. It shouldn't be a challenge but a pleasure and a way of life. I almost don't even post half my field reports because I live in the field. Posting them won't help me more than the actual experience. And the experience you gain in real life makes you better faster than anything else. Just do it - Nike
    What you need will not come quickly. WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS WHAT YOU FEAR. Take comfort that what you seek is there. But you will NEVER have it if you keep being a p$ssy.

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    Default Re: 30-DAY APPROACH CHALLENGE Why everything except cold approach sucks

    "Let's take for instance a girl is walking out of the store but almost to her car. You have very little time to act and if you hesitate even 3 seconds you are screwed and look like a total creeper"

    Mackdaddy, this brings up something that has been contributing to my aa. How do u go about approaching in a situation like this, without looking like a creeper? Another example would be if I'm on line for something and there's an HB a few people behind/in front? How do u go about an approach here in a natural way? It seems to me like you would be perceived as a creeper if u followed a girl to her car or got out of line to approach. Are some sets just unapproachable under certain circumstances? I ask mainly to know if in these situations am I being AFC by not approaching or is it reasonable to not approach when there is no "natural" opening or opportunity?

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    Default Re: 30-DAY APPROACH CHALLENGE Why everything except cold approach sucks

    Quote Originally Posted by 2champ2 View Post
    "Let's take for instance a girl is walking out of the store but almost to her car. You have very little time to act and if you hesitate even 3 seconds you are screwed and look like a total creeper"

    Mackdaddy, this brings up something that has been contributing to my aa. How do u go about approaching in a situation like this, without looking like a creeper? Another example would be if I'm on line for something and there's an HB a few people behind/in front? How do u go about an approach here in a natural way? It seems to me like you would be perceived as a creeper if u followed a girl to her car or got out of line to approach. Are some sets just unapproachable under certain circumstances? I ask mainly to know if in these situations am I being AFC by not approaching or is it reasonable to not approach when there is no "natural" opening or opportunity?
    It's as difficult as you make it, really. If you smile and are confident, you will be amazed by how much you can get with.

    Simple Pickup did a video that blew my mind, regarding this. Find it on youtube, it's a 2:56 video called "Learn How to Pick Up Girls: Project GO". Their videos about this Project have quite a bad rep, but this one is incredible. And they actually pull out the "going to chat up a girl starting her car".
    Seduction is a martial art. Reading books and talking to experts is important, and helpful. But you won't progress unless you go out there and fight.

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    Default Re: 30-DAY APPROACH CHALLENGE Why everything except cold approach sucks

    If it's the grocery store lineup then pick out some item she is purchasing and then make a comment about.

    Hey, that bag of chips. I haven't tried that flavor/ brand. How does it compare to the barbeque flavor/Lays brand?

    Use a situational opener and you won't come across as a creep.


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