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  1. #1
    Mystery_wannabe Guest

    Default Women who feel offended gaming under PUA ideologies

    Hey guys,

    I can't say I've seen a lot, but I have practiced on a few females at my university and here are some things I've noticed.

    - Most girls are very receptive to the PUA tactics.
    - I've significantly become more socially active
    - I feel a lot happier
    - School actually seems fun now

    However, as I try to get to know these girls and test out flirting tactics I've seen this case where the girl is not appreciating the chase that I'm offering her. (see day game. Blanked out - Girl B under FR forums).

    My assumption is that since she knows I have a bit of interest in her (through eye contact and body communication), I'm supposed to do what the media tells us as typical AFCs to do. I'm supposed put her on that pedestal and worship her like the queen. When I'm not doing that, she seems frustrated. An example is when class ended today, she started a conversation with me (which is good) and we were chatting and all of a sudden, without warning, she strayed away towards the prof without saying a word. Immediately, I thought "if I was to do this naturally, how would I react?" The obvious answer would be keep walking my own path. What else am I supposed to do? (feel free to object me and give criticisms if you do not agree) So then I get near class and she happens to align herself with me again but I see her looking pissed and ignoring me sprinting ahead.

    I thought "Well what are you mad for? You left me without saying a word and you expect me to wait for you? What have you done to deserve me waiting for you? Just cause you're physically an HB9?"

    I don't know guys, I just can't seem to get this vibe going with her. She just acts weird around me. Eg: She would not say hi to me but lifts her stuff away for me to sit next to her and then talks to me at the end of class.

    It makes me confused

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    No matter how good a Pick-up artist you are, you will still strike out fairly often. That is why it pisses me off every time I see some PUA guide that promises to get you rejection rate down to virtually zero.

    Some women will never be attracted to you no matter what you do. Others are not worth you time. This woman sounds like she may be a control freak, and she may not be worth pursuing. Sometimes, you will get the reaction that you mentioned when you haven't demonstrated high enough value before attempting to make some sort of play on the woman. She still feels that you are socially beneath her. Therefore, she is only using you. You are likely in the same spot as the guy the buys a woman a drink. She'll take it, and ask you to buy her another one. She will show interest until you stop giving her a service for free. To break the cycle, you have to prove yourself to be at least equal value, generally a tiny bit higher than her. You must neg her a bit, and dhv yourself. Give her a bit of "tough love". Call her out in a friendly manner when she is being selfish, or trying to use you. Realize that she isn't worth your time, if she doesn't eventually treat you with the respect you deserve. Make sure SHE realizes that she isn't worth your time unless she gives you some love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunsnglory View Post
    No matter how good a Pick-up artist you are, you will still strike out fairly often. That is why it pisses me off every time I see some PUA guide that promises to get you rejection rate down to virtually zero.

    Some women will never be attracted to you no matter what you do. Others are not worth you time. This woman sounds like she may be a control freak, and she may not be worth pursuing. Sometimes, you will get the reaction that you mentioned when you haven't demonstrated high enough value before attempting to make some sort of play on the woman. She still feels that you are socially beneath her. Therefore, she is only using you. You are likely in the same spot as the guy the buys a woman a drink. She'll take it, and ask you to buy her another one. She will show interest until you stop giving her a service for free. To break the cycle, you have to prove yourself to be at least equal value, generally a tiny bit higher than her. You must neg her a bit, and dhv yourself. Give her a bit of "tough love". Call her out in a friendly manner when she is being selfish, or trying to use you. Realize that she isn't worth your time, if she doesn't eventually treat you with the respect you deserve. Make sure SHE realizes that she isn't worth your time unless she gives you some love.
    Well to be exact, I was only able to build a slight bit of rapport before things crashed. I did not do her any favors and in fact, I walked out on her which was why she got pissed at me at the beginning when she was asking the TA a question and I didn't wait for her like an AFC normally would.

    Maybe it was that time when I didn't dress so well and she started categorizing my class level based on what I was wearing?

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    Sounds like she is a little brat and used to doing whatever she wants and guys will just follow/wait around for her. Now that can be a good thing because you destroyed her frame on how a guy should treat her (since she acts like a princess).

    It will go one of two ways, she will love that you are not like all the other guys, or she is a girl player and loves to have guys chasing her.

    Either way, you are handling it right. You are either way in, or you don't want to be with her anyways.

    Keep your frame strong and don't over analyze it.. I mean she is just one girl who is maybe around for a little while - you get to live with your new strong confident self forever.

    ~B

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    Default Re: Women who feel offended gaming under PUA ideologies

    I might be a little late to this, but honestly i also feel like you did the right thing. It was good that you kept walking and didn't wait for her. One thing i would do if i was you, would talk to other cute girls in the class. Instead of sitting next to her, go sit next to other people in the class and build some social prof and become friendly with everyone, maybe even flirt with some other girls in a casual manor and get her jealous, then once you have become the guy that everyone wants, she will then start coming to you, & if not than you will be talking to all the other girls in the class so why worry about the one? =] hope i could help!

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    Default Re: Women who feel offended gaming under PUA ideologies

    Quote Originally Posted by JM* View Post
    I might be a little late to this, but honestly i also feel like you did the right thing. It was good that you kept walking and didn't wait for her. One thing i would do if i was you, would talk to other cute girls in the class. Instead of sitting next to her, go sit next to other people in the class and build some social prof and become friendly with everyone, maybe even flirt with some other girls in a casual manor and get her jealous, then once you have become the guy that everyone wants, she will then start coming to you, & if not than you will be talking to all the other girls in the class so why worry about the one? =] hope i could help!
    Thanks for the response. That class is well over and I kinda regret because I saw this girl that started to take notice of me (sending me IOIs) and when she dyed her hair red, she was hot! I should've spoken to her haha.

    I'll take a note of this in the future

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    Default Re: Women who feel offended gaming under PUA ideologies

    When you know how to pick up women, it boosts your confidence and morale as a man. You can direct where your situation should you if you know how to handle it. I don't seem to know and understand why some women get offended if we use PUA ideologies...

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    Default Re: Women who feel offended gaming under PUA ideologies

    What will you do if some girls are not receptive to PUAs techniques..? Like you did all the things you know and it seemed it is not working?

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    Default Re: Women who feel offended gaming under PUA ideologies

    well if she isn't being receptive to the techniques it might just mean that she is just not even into you. Remember not every PUA gets EVERY girl he wants/desires, he will fail more often than not, but what i would do if a girl isn't being receptive to me, and almost ignoring me, i would probably have a lot of fun with it at that point, because here is where you can experiment with new ideas and what not. First i put a time restraint on if you haven't already, so then maybe she will ease up and just go with it until you leave. Second i would ask her something to get her interested and that requires her to give me her full attention, for example "hey i have a couple minutes left to spare before i have to go back to my friends (or whatever) and while i have you here i was wondering if i could try something on you?" or "really quick and then i have to go i was wondering if i can try a little experiment with you?" then at this point she will probably be receptive, BUT if she is still non receptive, start to build a yes ladder say "okay but before we can start i need to ask you some questions. Are you interesting? Are you creative? Are you exciting and adventurous?" obviously she will say yes to all of them and if not then neg cause she will probably be a bitch and you need to level the playing field, so be a little bit of an asshole, but not in an offensive way. after she creates the yes ladder than you can say "okay good, so lets proceed" then you can go into the "cube" routine, if you know how to do that, which works well because you can then Isolate her (if she is not isolated) you can say you need to sit down, and it also involves touching, and you can be like okay give me your hands and hold them while she thinks. At this point if she still seems unreceptive you can either just go along with it until your done or you could pull out your cell phone and be like "oh shit im actually late for something now, i got to run, but it was good meeting you" or whatever you want to say. If she starts to get interested, and you get almost everything on the dot, then you say that you have to go and you would like to do it again sometime. I dont think that i would ask for her number, just because at this point she may feel obligated to and thats just awkward when someone gives you her number, but just say you enjoyed talking with her and you will see her around, and leave it at that.
    Thats what i would probably do. i would actually when playing a game with her i would go into the 5 question game, but before you do you make a bet, over a cup of coffee or whatever, so then if you win (which you will) than you can say your going to take her up on her bet and TELL her to give you her number say "alright i got to run, but give me your number and i will take you up on that bet sometime" or whatever.
    I hope i could help =] let me know if you have any other questions

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    Default Re: Women who feel offended gaming under PUA ideologies

    Move on to other girls. You don't really make a play for every girl there is, and you're probably only mildly interested in
    half of the girls you're gaming. Plus, chances are, you do get turned off sometimes. So move on to other girls that may or
    do respond to you and let other PUAs have a go at these girls who don't.


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